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  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    What that says to me is the swing was in favour of keeping the Government honest. And they nearly got there.

    Maybe they are waiting for our "rockstar" Economy to overdose.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to steven crawford,

    analysis

    what is that?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19707 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    But, I’m happy to sell ours in a month or so, even if capital gains was taxed but it wouldn’t as it’s my family home.

    and it wouldn't anyway because it wasn't going to be retrospective. so even if you did pay CGT, it would have been 15 present of the gain between when the law takes affect and... I don't know what I'm talking about:( Deborah?

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Sacha,

    Sacha, I don't actually know, but it's in the geeks for dummy's book I'm reading.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Not The Messiah,

    It is a pity that in NZ, that for many reasons, almost 1/4 of the voting public choose ( or have just been put off ) not to vote.

    There's a great organisation called RockEnrol lead by young voters who are recommending compulsory voting coupled with a 'no confidence' option.

    It's an idea worthy of further consideration.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to steven crawford,

    hope you are making sense of it

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19707 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to steven crawford,

    Nah that's right I'm sure. My point is Labour's common idea Is all good in my book. And TV3 news just now need to grow up. To say "have you confidence in DC?, I'd respond "Do you have confidence in Key, Slater and Collins. Start throwing it back in the reporters face.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    a great organisation called RockEnrol

    http://www.rockenrol.me/

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19707 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Grevers, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    What about votes not cast. Once the poll closes the uncast votes could be cast on behalf of a scrutineer perhaps?

    No, in New Zealand, everything is reconciled and accounted for - just about every piece of paper or plastic used in the election, in fact. After the preliminary count, all used, unused and part-used ballot paper books go in one envelope, spoiled ballots in another, suspicious votes in a third, and counted votes (under seal) in a fourth. If individual vote issuers reconciliations were off, the returning officer would follow up. And scrutineers should be asked to leave if they attempt to touch a ballot paper. It would need everybody present to be in collusion to rig something (with a huge risk that the people to whom you assigned extra votes hadn't actually voted elsewhere).

    New Plymouth • Since Jul 2011 • 143 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Grevers, in reply to Richard Grevers,

    And am I too cynical thinking that the main reason Key will court Winston is to gag him from demanding an investigation of all the dirt?

    New Plymouth • Since Jul 2011 • 143 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    From friends experience, it'd be nice to make it easier in rural areas that don't even have access to a bus service. Kaitaia doesn't have traffic lights let alone any way for people out in the boondocks to get to a polling station in a town centre. Along Doubtless Bay locals thought it may have been at Taipa College. Didn't know of anywhere else . Didn't matter anyway ,petrol was tight and it was needed to get the kids around the next week. Its 10k to the one and only dairy out our way and then 20k to an area close to where polling may be. Then 20 +k to get back. The dairy were saying ,they used to get candidates. Noone this year.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Richard Grevers,

    And am I too cynical

    No. Key is part slime part crusher. Anything is possible

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Richard Grevers,

    I think Key/Joyce are like Cancer. JMO of course. Wouldn't want to upset their little heads now.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • krothville, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    There's a great organisation called RockEnrol lead by young voters who are recommending compulsory voting coupled with a 'no confidence' option.

    If compulsory voting is adopted, there surely should be a 'no vote' option also.

    Since Sep 2014 • 73 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to krothville,

    If compulsory voting is adopted, there surely should be a ‘no vote’ option also.

    Yes ok. Spoil it if it works for you e.g Fuk John Key :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody,

    OMG - Campbell Live tonight - OIA response from Work Safe NZ just received by them show Pike River Mine Stage 1 Recovery has been safe to enter since October 2013 (as assessed and agreed by both Work Safe NZ and Mines Recovery).

    The Nats took an overwhelming majority of the party votes there (nearly twice that of Labour) - another lie by the PM (?). Unless the Board of Solid Energy were pulling the wool over his eyes as well.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Not The Messiah, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    I just had a look at that site. What a great idea.
    I like the Party thing especially if you can get lots of bands on board.
    Bands have to work the gigs hard these days to try and make money ( and sometimes fame ), younger folk are into going out to pubs etc and having a great time. There are a lot of really good young bands/ musicians around and often they are often more politically aware.
    I saw a video from Lorde, who although she is/ was to young to vote, she was encouraging younger folk to get out and vote. Great.
    A positive win win all round .

    Auckland • Since Sep 2014 • 38 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    And Humble Hone. Brought a tear to my eye. yep Fuk John Key , now the joker act.
    Hi I'm David Seymour

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Not The Messiah, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    That sucked eh.
    Those poor families have suffered so much already and I can't imagine how sick they feel now after seeing this. Bloody Key and his lies...
    John Campbell seems to be the only Media entity out there that gives a damn.

    Auckland • Since Sep 2014 • 38 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Not The Messiah,

    Carrying this discussion further I really look forward to John signing us up to TPPA as soon as possible so we can get our microchip implants. I don’t drink Tui but I may just be forced to, by whatever Mutli-National that owns it and most other NZ breweries now.

    International Day of Action Against the TPPA: Kiwis Fight Back – 8 November – #TPPANoWay

    There will be a protest being organised in a town or city near you.

    Here’s the FB page:

    https://www.facebook.com/ItsOurFutureNZ/events

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Not The Messiah, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Yes. Respect from both Hone and John for each other and that came through powerfully. Hone seems very grounded and his comments about his Mokos jumping all over him and how real and important that was for him, that touched me. Having grandkids of my own I know the total buzz you get from that.

    Auckland • Since Sep 2014 • 38 posts Report Reply

  • Not The Messiah, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    Thanks Sofie - I'll make a note of that. I've just given Facebook away for a while - too many pictures of fluffy kittens and twee self help sayings put me right off.
    If you try and get people involved in discussing anything political you can almost see them run for their high brick wall reality proof shelters.
    And it eats up valuable time spent doing real things.

    Auckland • Since Sep 2014 • 38 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Kaitaia doesn't have traffic lights let alone any way for people out in the boondocks to get to a polling station in a town centre.

    riding the beams into town
    #localproduct

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19707 posts Report Reply

  • Not The Messiah, in reply to Richard Grevers,

    Possible. Who knows what Winston will do at any given moment in time.
    Key has made his decision on his investigation already - he won't change. " I'm right, your wrong " fuck that got up my nose. He doesn't want to find anything more than his narrow investigation is designed to come up with.
    I loved the comment from ( I think ) Glenn Greenwald when he said the something like the Beast looking at his own belly.

    Auckland • Since Sep 2014 • 38 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Richard Grevers,

    And am I too cynical thinking that the main reason Key will court Winston is to gag him from demanding an investigation of all the dirt?

    Well that's the very reason Winston gave as to why Key might call him. Winston said he wouldn't be bribed - he was there to do exactly what those that voted for him expected him to do - keep the Government honest. I think he knows a lot more than what has already come out in Dirty Politics. Here's hoping.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

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