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Hard News: Growing up in public

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  • Ant Timpson,

    Sorry I just went to the upworthy generator and thats all I got.

    AK • Since Mar 2008 • 12 posts Report Reply

  • Tim Darlington,

    I won't be linking to the Daily Mail's trash stories claiming Lorde wore a "bondage bra" at her concert that night.

    Ignoring for a moment the industrial-strength creep factor inherent in tabloid journos writing about a 17-year-old's underwear, isn't a bra pretty much by definition a "bondage bra?" It's kind of the point...

    Since Nov 2006 • 56 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I wouldn't blame the airport management. The press contingent stampeding was the problem, not the fans.

    Oh dear. It seems my original comment was unclear. I did not mean to imply there was any issue with the fans. This is what I meant:

    It seems that Auckland Airport was well set up to handle all the fans who’d turned up, but perhaps they [i.e. airport management] and Team Lorde [i.e. Lorde's management] hadn’t expected the media situation.

    Is "Team Lorde" otherwise used to describe her fans? I don't know - I was just using it in the way that other fandoms do - to describe the management/behind-the-scenes team. My idea was that the airport hadn't expected the media reaction, so weren't fully equipped to protect Lorde's entourage from the horde.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    Oh dear. It seems my original comment was unclear. I did not mean to imply there was any issue with the fans. This is what I meant:

    Nah, I probably didn't read closely enough.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22825 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    weren’t fully equipped to protect Lorde’s entourage from the horde

    Again I suspect they [the airport management] didn't expect the NZ media crews there to behave like a "horde" (more a hordelet). It isn't usual for media in NZ to do that and maybe they just got caught up in the moment as well.

    It's a pity those involved couldn't have followed Guy Williams lead and apologize rather than acting all indignant.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4458 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    I personally could manage without the shots of Lorde getting into a taxi, and the taxi driving away. I’ve seen people get into cars before, it’s kind of an anticlimax.

    Full marks to Lorde for talking so graciously to media and fans when she was obviously exhausted and preoccupied.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3891 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Ahem. I fucked up. That’s not Heather du Pleissis Allan running with the camera operators there. I’ve amended the post.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22825 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Tim Darlington,

    isn’t a bra pretty much by definition a “bondage bra?” It’s kind of the point…

    I have many, many responses to this, but the safest is "No." In my vanilla life, one of the reasons I wear a bra is to not be in pain.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher, in reply to Emma Hart,

    I have many, many responses to this, but the safest is "No." In my vanilla life, one of the reasons I wear a bra is to not be in pain.

    Word up. A good everyday bra - even an underwire bra - doesn't even feel like it's there. It's no more an item of bondage than a belt or shoelaces.

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Blair Rogers,

    Seems to have been enough NZ Police Officers present to have provided a skerrick of order to the running throng.
    Or not enough initiative?

    Philly • Since Jul 2013 • 5 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    In other Lorde-related news, she tweeted this: i thought the superbowl and the world series were the same thing and a few American fans think she's joking/playing dumb because obviously everyone knows the difference. I mean, it's called the World Series - it's known around the world, right?

    Raglan • Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    Bloody yanks, thinking everyone plays basketball.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    I just wish it was like the bad ol' days when we didn't give a shit who was in the country and understood if a well known random was in the country, they were here because of just that. I mean it's nice an' all that Johnny Depp hangs out up North. No one cares up there. So many people spot him and no one bothers him. I believe that is probably something well knowns appreciate. Seeing as people follow Lorde around by things like twitter ,do we not suspect that her following in the media has been created because of such fans. Should the media pack be expected to behave with dignity when her fans scream for her. I dunno. It seems that security of the person now seems inevitable. Next it must be security of her home , family etc etc. Its been like that in the U.S forever. We seem to follow their lead all the time.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH, in reply to Tristan,

    The person yelling ‘she is getting away’ and talking about the excitement was Guy Williams. He was doing his usual rabble rousing stuff which is funny but not when the people he is there to take the piss out of (ie the media scrum) take it seriously.

    Was he also the one who asked "what was the movie on the plane?" when she stopped taking questions?

    Since Sep 2009 • 444 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to SteveH,

    Was he also the one who asked “what was the movie on the plane?” when she stopped taking questions?

    Yes.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22825 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    Bloody yanks, thinking everyone plays basketball.

    That's the game they run around with baskets on sticks tossing the ball to each other right?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4458 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    That’s the game they run around with baskets on sticks tossing the ball to each other right?

    No, you're thinking of baseball (to bring the World Series gag full circle).

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Presumably Lorde is playing with the "Isn't NZ a state of Australia" thing.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Again I suspect they [the airport management] didn’t expect the NZ media crews there to behave like a “horde” (more a hordelet).

    Heh. We could have new word for a “Group of Fans” or “The Media Frenzy” – A "Lordelet” maybe?

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1590 posts Report Reply

  • llew40,

    Airports have to strike the right balance between allowing media to do their jobs, ensuring safety of travellers (and meeters and greeters), and keeping the flow of people moving.

    By and large they do a great job of this, considering there is 14 million plus trips through Auckland each year, many thousands of whom could be described as 'famous', and many hundreds who could be described as 'very very famous'.

    Principles of safety and keeping the airport moving aside, it is sometimes a matter of preference for the arriving VIP or their 'team' - many want to give fans (and media) the opportunity to see them (and vice versa). Many just want to get through the airport and to their hotel room as soon as they can, or are running to a tight schedule.

    By and large media respect all of this and work with all the agencies in the right way because everyone has a job to do and there will always be another VIP of significant public interest.

    Since Nov 2012 • 140 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    We all know the only world series is the FA Cup.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • izogi,

    When Lorde emerged at Sydney airport yesterday she was flanked by both private security guards and (according to Jonathan Marshall on Twitter) no fewer than 10 Australian Federal Police officers.

    I do hope that New Zealand never becomes like this as habit, though, in the sense of using gratuitous Police presence to absolutely overwhelm any potential issue anywhere. Something I really disliked about living in Melbourne, and what I saw of Sydney when there, was the frequency with which Police commonly roam the streets in intimidating gangs of 4 or more.

    Hopefully this is just a passing phase.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen R, in reply to izogi,

    Something I really disliked about living in Melbourne, and what I saw of Sydney when there, was the frequency with which Police commonly roam the streets in intimidating gangs of 4 or more.

    In Paris the cops tended to roam in packs of 8 *vans* with about 6 cops in each van. When they're getting ready for a demonstration (which seems to happen every time we visit) it's more like packs of 20 vans. (They might have been Gendarmes - There needs to be a guidebook to the plumage and feeding habits of European cops.)

    In Barcelona, the cops not only rove in packs of half a dozen vans, but during the General Strike riot they fanned out in packs with one cop at the back with a rifle, and one with baton+shield facing behind them to make sure they didn't get ambushed.

    We have a long way to go before we're that bad.

    Wellington • Since Jul 2009 • 259 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to izogi,

    Hopefully this is just a passing phase.

    They were doing it when I lived there in the late 90s, so no, I think that's for keeps. Their uniform of black leather is pretty gangster too, it gives you a bit of a shock to see that kind of thing walking the streets.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to BenWilson,

    I remember seeing a couple of cops walk into a backpackers poorly disguised as tradies (Bunnings shirts) looking for someone. They had giant handguns on their belts, loosely covered by the shirts.

    If they did that here, they'd just trigger a flood of calls to the AOS about a couple of blokes walking around with poorly concealed handguns.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

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