But you'd have to be pretty naive to think legalisation will result in lower rates of convictions or imprisonment for Maori.
Overall, maybe not, but it would lead to zero convictions and imprisonment for Maori for something that it also leads to few convictions and imprisonment for non-Maori, so that's a win for racial equality. Similarly for official decriminalization. It's this de-facto state of affairs now that allows for that brand of Pakeha hypocrisy.
But sure, police racism would also be good to tackle more directly.
Your entire line is not really on topic in this thread. I don't think you'll find many people arguing head to head with you that more assistance for those suffering most from any cannabis related harm is unwarranted - no matter what system we live under, including the current one.
I just voted yes. Legalization is what is on offer. If decriminalization had been the only thing on offer I'd have supported that, even if I agree with Russell that it's not the right thing to do.
I do not think the referendum will pass, though. It, and practically every other human concern, have been drowned out by the pandemic hysteria, and I don't anything even vaguely approximately political normality returning until we've got that out of our systems. Right now, people are voting out of fear, and that's not ever good for liberal reform. Labour's near majority is the NZ herd clustering around strong authority, in terror of the big bad world. I can't even bear to watch news any more. I'd feel real bitter about the referendum destruction if it wasn't the tiniest little piece of the overall destruction this years insanity has brought.
Possibly, in the way that four big macs equate to one decent restaurant meal
I think it's more like in the way that a nip of spirits equates to a beer when you're getting breath tested. Many prefer beer. Many like spirits but only if diluted in a mixer. And every type of alcohol has generally better and worse brands in the eye of the tasting public. But all (except home brew) clearly identify their strength and it is not legal to sell for consumption pure alcohol even though you could safely water it down and drink it. A line is drawn and it mostly makes sense. If you must drink 90% pure alcohol it isn't that hard to make or acquire.
That said I think you could argue the high strength stuff is more like spirits or wine and the "pure" is extracts like hashish. I don't knows really because none of can kill you as easily as alcohol so the analogy breaks down on the actual harm measure.
It feels a bit churlish to criticise, but the 15% THC limit feels low as many popular strains currently come in around the 20% mark. That creates an obvious and sizeable niche for the black market.
I don't think this is much of a problem really. There is a black market for over proof booze now but really, so what? You'll get the same effect from two doses of half strength as one dose of full strength. The important thing is that the dose is known. I don't think strength will long continue to dictate price, as civilized use progresses. Subtler things like taste, smell, quality of experience and brand recognition will demand premiums. The crude idea of stronger is better will just be a tiny niche, like drinking moonshine is.
There’s certainly some not particularly good arguments at present for an early end to lockdown but some of the arguments are worth considering, they are appear to be in good faith.
Yes, whatever the facts of the virus itself are, and time will certainly tell on that, it seems likely to me that opinions are divided over the basic values that lead to decisions as enormous as the total lockdown of society. To write them all off as eugenic is not good faith.
But I don't think this is the thread for such a discussion, TBH. I'm not even sure this is the site.
Was just thinking this morning that the referendum is pretty much fucked the moment the opponents cotton on to the strategy of highlighting the connection between any kind of smoking and respiratory impairment, in an age where harm minimization is at the most ascendant I have ever even conceived, particularly in that respect.
Presumably if the weather is not too bad they can just sail around to save marina fees?
You can get little ones online. Good enough to get seedlings established, then plant out in the garden. Mine is actually a carport, which I decided to put clear roofing on because who the hell wastes building space on a car? I'm running out of shelf space though.
Suggestion for Russell. Start another honeypot thread which is for discussion rather than community spirited kindness and sharing of experiences, and divert any debate to there.
Ping from Kelston. Hat tip to Deborah for making me aware that I am in Kelston, NOT New Lynn. She is intimate with the boundaries and I am Sepuloni's problem :-)