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  • mark taslov, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    <sob>

    Most ‘normal people’- I use that term pretty loosely – would recoil in horror at the prospect of there being a handful of people who considered them to be liars.

    It takes a special type of monster to cynically gamble on the probability that no more than 50% of people over the age of 18 will call them out on this compulsion. Most sapiens might hesitantly throw caution to the wind and just tell the truth, yet still we vote for this ilk + jesters like they’re going out of fashion.

    I'm glad to see that Hooton's vacuousness remains a reliable source of lightweight entertainment.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Kim Hill is taking Key to task on Morning Report

    link (6 mins, most relevant parts from a couple of minutes in)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Damn, still the counter sits on 5466!
    I’ll never amount to anything…
    <sob>

    You were always an enigma - now a constant enigma :)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2097 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4341 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to steven crawford,

    John Key is an adolescent, with a fetish

    Is there a known cure? I remember a video made to demonstrate a form of therapy for anti-social compulsive behavior in children. The subject was a young girl who, among other things, was a chronic hair puller.

    The first scene showed her having a story read to her by a guy with the kind of quiff that Dick Driver once sported on Radio With Pictures. The girl could be seen eyeing up the guy's hair while appearing to pay little attention to the story. Before long she'd grabbed the quiff and given it a hearty and utterly shameless tug.

    The process was repeated with a female, whose story reading skills failed to save her. Finally the girl was shown having a story read to her by an older man. While she didn't appear to be too taken with his reading there was no hair pulling.

    The only problem, and one would have to have been such a party pooper to point it out, was that the last story reader was completely bald.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to steven crawford,

    It’s almost amusing how DPF’s mitigating response amounts to “But Key is a good boss, who we know always behaves well, because … people whose salaries depend on him won’t say anything bad about him”.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1898 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to linger,

    DPF’s mitigating response

    Thanks to the interwebs, even the follicly challenged can tug a virtual forelock.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    actual LOL!

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1898 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Thanks to the interwebs, even the follicly challenged can tug a virtual forelock.

    serfing the web
    in a stable mainframe

    <tangential aside>
    Galavant was quite fun at times…

    <runaway memes>
    Dirty Trichophillias…
    at 5.30 it’s looking like Key’s cafe horsing around is turning into a ’tuggernaut’©

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to steven crawford,

    John Key is an adolescent, with a fetish

    But let's not join some media outlets in minimising this. Sure he's weird but that's a distraction.

    Please read the woman's full account of months of sustained bullying. Who would think that was OK?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Sacha,

    Sure he’s weird but that’s a distraction.

    This news / photo agency could find this pic
    a quick seller at at the moment...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Sacha,

    Sure he’s weird but that’s a distraction.

    Weird is how the Guardian's spinning it, but I'd say the overwhelming impression is creepy.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • linger,

    it’s not “banter” (WTF does Key believe that word means?)
    but also I would suggest “creepy” is not a sufficient term –
    ultimately, it’s being an Empowered Big Swinging Dick
    … which means not having to think about how
    the “little people” (=anyone who isn’t you) may feel.
    This is how power corrupts.

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1898 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to linger,

    Just caught the Key is a dickhead story on BBC World -- they included this tweet.

    Perp doesn't get to say whether something is "lighthearted". The victim clearly didn't perceive it that way.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to linger,

    the 'Tuggernaut' rolls on...

    it’s not “banter” (WTF does Key believe that word means?)

    he is also doing his usual 'putting his words in other peoples' mouths' routine:

    "It was all in the context of a bit of banter that was going on, and so obviously I immediately apologised for that.
    "She thanked me for that and said 'that's all fine, no drama'".

    when earlier in the article the waitress says:

    "There is no shame in telling the truth, and it's a lot easier to keep track of than a lie.
    "A lie would be claiming that I accepted an apology or spoke the words, 'that's all fine, no drama'," she said.
    "Neither of these two things have happened and so it had to be said; even my mother knew instantly that I simply don't talk like that."

    I wonder if that's why Key's blonde offsider - seen in most tv clips of him these days - (Sia Aston - press secretary?) has short hair...?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    This just got a whole lot more distasteful.

    The waitress says she was deceived into sitting down with her employers and talking to Rachel Glucina on the pretence that Glucina was to help them prepare a press statement making it clear her beef wasn't with the company.

    She says the interview and pictures taken on this pretence were then used in Glucina's front page lead story in this morning's Herald.

    Sordid.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22761 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Sordid.

    This.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    In contrast to Glucina's Dirty Politics assassination of this poor woman, international media are applying a more accurate context to the story. The Washington Post headline reads, New Zealand’s ponytail-pulling prime minister becomes national embarrassment.

    Damn right!

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    The NZ Herald comments section desperately needs a 'thumbs down' option - there are so many 'Key apologists' on there getting a free-ride - though they are a frightening insight into the mindset of a Key voter!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    Mockery is one of the harder things for a politician to counter. It'll be interesting to see how such a successful political team respond.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2097 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Russell Brown,

    The waitress says she was deceived into sitting down with her employers and talking to Rachel Glucina

    This is just disgusting. It appears as though The Herald, through Glucina and Currie have decided to give up any pretense of having moral standards.

    Surely there are some restrictions on whether journalists are allowed to lie to victims of harassment to get a story?

    This woman was the victim of sustained bullying and harassment.

    The Herald believes it's OK to lie to her in order to get a story?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    No more Harald for me. Not online, not hard copy, and I'll not knowingly support their advertisers either. I'm sure someone will notice and let me know if their culture changes. Sorry about the good guys working there, but I don't have the stomach for this nauseating behaviour.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Note that Glucina is denying the accusation about what she did and promising a statement. Herald will be lawyering it first, I imagine.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Sacha,

    Oh and the editor is backing her by the looks.

    Glucina tweeted this morning saying the claims were "utterly not true" and that she would be "responding in due course".

    Herald Editor Shayne Currie told TVNZ that "none of what is stated is accurate".

    Unless he has listened to interview recordings, not sure what he's basing that reckon on.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Angela Hart,

    That's it for me. No more Harald, not online, not hard copy.

    Glucina and the Herald have clearly breached (abandoned?) any pretence of journalistic ethics today. The Press Council's statement of Principles is clear about this.

    9. Subterfuge
    Information or news obtained by subterfuge, misrepresentation or dishonest means is not permitted unless there is an overriding public interest and the news or information cannot be obtained by any other means.

    Incidentally, if I lived in Auckland I certainly wouldn't be patronising any of the Hip Group cafés either.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

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