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  • izogi, in reply to Damian Christie,

    Cool. Thanks, Damian (and everyone else).

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Alfie,

    In any event, I'm sure monitoring technology has moved on from that system nowadays.

    Well, I did mention the GCSB earlier and yes monitoring tech has moved on. That doesn't mean Neilson will be using anything of the sort, they supply the figures their paymasters want.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Damian Christie,

    I’m not sure that 3 News is particularly different from One in terms of that breakdown, I’d be surprised if it was markedly so.

    Thanks for the numbers. I think TV3 has been doing more egregious live crosses than that most nights. Excluding the advertorial ASB financial advisor live cross which I'm guessing ASB pay handsomely for in the first place.

    I agree when you jump to a specific reporter with expertise in a subject that seems reasonable.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Damian Christie,

    if someone watches

    ... if someone with a people meter watches ...

    And yeah that appears to be the only mechanism at the moment so as you point we have to live (or die) with it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell, in reply to Sacha,

    Fantastic result. I hope some political parties were taking notes.

    I think that they have, it’s probably why Campbel is under fire

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2609 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Damian Christie,

    The first story was also about the big dump of snow down South, but I’ll save that fight for another day

    I learned in Texas that weather is news. I always suspected that one reason was hardly anyone could complain about weather as news.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Roger Lacey, in reply to steven crawford,

    What seems to be forgotten in much of the debate is that TV3 is a commercial enterprise and is entitled to do whatever its management think will make it the most money.

    Are you arguing for the retention of state owned assets, and for a more egalitarian society? Or are you saying that who ever has the most toys wins?

    I was saying that TV3 has shareholders who would probably like to see a return on their investment and are not necessarily interested in what is good for the nation. On the other hand, TVNZ is owned by us and should be our flagship channel, making programmes that challenge us to become a better nation. That they fought the charter and only tolerated TVNZ6 & 7 until the money ran out showed how they value their bloated salaries above all else.

    Whatakataka Bay Surf Club… • Since Apr 2008 • 148 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Roger Lacey,

    On the other hand, TVNZ is owned by us and should be our flagship channel, making programmes that challenge us to become a better nation. That they fought the charter and only tolerated TVNZ6 & 7 until the money ran out showed how they value their bloated salaries above all else.

    The Clark Govt had some sound ideas for public broadcasting. Unfortunately they were ultimately let down by cold feet - quite possibly due to the 1st term "winter of discontent" - and what I also suspect was a half-baked attempt to emulate the UK Channel 4 model.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5426 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    The Clark Govt had some sound ideas for public broadcasting. Unfortunately they were ultimately let down by cold feet…

    I did watch just one episode of Brian Edwards’ 2003 talk show (“He’s back! The Irish lilt!”). Solidly-enough researched fluff, with a recently deceased villain from Coro Street dropping in, and a disconcertingly creepy interview with Lucy Lawless.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Former TV3 journalist and Al Jazeera news presenter Kamahl Santamaria adds his support to the Save Campbell Live campaign.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to nzlemming,

    Alastair Thompson has a worrying summary of other changes in the media world.

    That's a great analysis which partly explains the great race to the bottom amongst our main news organisations. The Herald newsroom is now run by a marketing woman, TV3 News answers to a money man and TVNZ must surely be controlled by a group of neoliberal primates.

    I love Thompson's reference to the rise of "Stuff the Nation" being behind the desertion of some of Fairfax's better journos.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    For working journo's the other shocking public news in the week was the decision of Phil Kitchin to take up a job with Paula Bennett in the Beehive.

    Surely he is just going undercover...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to nzlemming,

    Alastair Thompson has a worrying summary of other changes in the media world.

    I hope this isn't NZ's equivalent of HSBC gagging Peter Oborne at the Daily Telegraph. We could be closer to Chomsky's Propaganda Model then we think.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5426 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Bennett,

    The Clark Govt had some sound ideas for public broadcasting. Unfortunately they were ultimately let down by cold feet – quite possibly due to the 1st term “winter of discontent” – and what I also suspect was a half-baked attempt to emulate the UK Channel 4 model.

    Also the Labour model of Charter plus the requirement that TVNZ deliver a dividend each year was a hopelessly contradictory state-of-affairs.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 172 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Simon Bennett,

    Also the Labour model of Charter plus the requirement that TVNZ deliver a dividend each year was a hopelessly contradictory state-of-affairs.

    Is Britain's Channel 4 required to return a dividend to its shareholders? If not, then TVNZ was given an impossible task.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5426 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison,

    I never liked Campbell because I signed off from T.V news years ago. Tv3 are as bad as TVNZ. They are both shit.

    We fucked with our public broadcasting commitments for twenty years to make money for the state.

    We are like a joke red state , media wise.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Simon Bennett,

    the Labour model of Charter plus the requirement that TVNZ deliver a dividend each year was a hopelessly contradictory state-of-affairs

    Genius, eh.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Sacha,

    Yes, the Boston Consulting Group would have charged a million dollars to produce you a report that went "WTF".

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Roger Lacey,

    I was saying that TV3 has shareholders who would probably like to see a return on their investment and are not necessarily interested in what is good for the nation. On the other hand, TVNZ is owned by us and should be our flagship channel, making programmes that challenge us to become a better nation. That they fought the charter and only tolerated TVNZ6 & 7 until the money ran out showed how they value their bloated salaries above all else.

    Up until resently, I thought that media works was a responsible corporate citizen. And that the public broadcaster was free of nepotism. I now realize, that I probably watch far to much Television.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4341 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Key asks if people actually watch publicly funded broadcast TV.
    By the sounds of things, he for one doubts that any of us are really interested in such intellectual, lefty, communist pursuits.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Alfie,

    Because I record CL and because I don't watch it at 7, I signed the petitions to show in the only way I can my support to keep this on Air. I don't expect the show to always peak my interest for every story but I know the efforts involved to progress information for the people with as much help as the journalists can and as much hindrance as those with vested interest will if they want to curb our enthusiasm, need my support, if, for nothing else than to stop another turd I can no longer watch appearing on my screen. I have now also supported the Action Station with funding toward a louder objection and that is all I can do without a people meter. Key and his influence have infiltrated every aspect of New Zealanders lives and for him to now way in to try influence those unsure of the direction TV3 is heading (although I suspect he already did in his "mates" kinda way nudge nudge wink wink) deserves my wrath. What ever the out come, we need the John Campbells of this world just to expose the voiceless, the zero hours , the 90% of our population across the Planet. Gawd help us all.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Sacha,

    the Labour model of Charter plus the requirement that TVNZ deliver a dividend each year was a hopelessly contradictory state-of-affairs

    Genius, eh.

    They applied that same model to the CRIs, they probably would have applied it to WINZ too. And people wonder why we feel our vote doesn't make a difference.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Wonder man John Key says:

    "I just wonder whether people get to 7 o'clock and want to zone out on stuff. I don't know ...

    but is willing to assume and use his position to sway the masses anyway - firm evidence that age does not bring wisdom...

    Who wants a world or country that reflects his 'lazy fear' approach to an informed public...

    time for some H. L. Mencken quotes:

    I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.
    ...
    The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.

    Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/h_l_mencken.html#47dK4BliAY6jtpPg.99

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia,

    but is willing to assume and use his position to sway the masses anyway – firm evidence that age does not bring wisdom…

    He's not exactly an inspiring leader, is he?

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

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