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Hard News: About Campbell Live

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  • Sacha, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    bugger #sad

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    It's about role models. Also about your group. I think it is hard for those of us who are not Black Americans to appreciate what Obama has represented. Even if you do not like her or her politics, Hillary Clinton is claiming a space that women have previously been denied. That message is very important. It is also why she is facing such sexist attacks.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3205 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    I think it is hard for those of us who are not Black Americans to appreciate what Obama has represented.

    I had some idea at the time. So moved.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    does the US even have any women on their banknotes?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Yes. For those who Know her, RIP Stella Bella Boo

    Sorrow and commiserations, Sofie.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Alfie,

    Of course they would. And it’s little surprise that Key would like to see Campbell nobbled. Just think how many ministers have been made to look like fools during CL appearances. For a start Hekia Parata couldn’t handle a serious interview, then Simon Bridges came across as a first class dork with an attitude problem.

    And then they (the Executive) just refused all requests for interviews. Cowards.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Sacha,

    does the US even have any women on their banknotes?

    They made a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin for a couple of years

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Key has previously wiped the floor with Campbell (apologies for the source of the edited clip). Far from one-way traffic.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody,

    Somewhat off topic, but worth re-reading this Chalkie article in light of the Govt's pre-budget announcement today about boosting R&D funding to the private sector;

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/63107486/red-ink-and--corporate-welfare--go-hand-in-hand

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    Somewhat off topic, but worth re-reading this Chalkie article in light of the Govt's pre-budget announcement today about boosting R&D funding to the private sector;

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/63107486/red-ink-and--corporate-welfare--go-hand-in-hand

    When I first read that article, the word "feudalism" immediately sprang to mind. No other term - not even the word 'hypocrisy' - can more strongly describe major companies that go out of their way to evade tax while also asking for taxpayer largesse at the same time.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5426 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Oh I can think of some shorter Anglo-Saxon words ..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to nzlemming,

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    They made a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin for a couple of years

    Chevron did have an oil tanker named Condoleezza Rice…

    Leaving a wave of controversy in its wake, one of the most visible reminders of the Bush administration’s ties to big oil – the 129,000-ton Chevron tanker Condoleezza Rice – has quietly been renamed, Chevron officials acknowledged yesterday.
    “We made the change to eliminate the unnecessary attention caused by the vessel’s original name,” said Chevron spokesman Fred Gorell.

    http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Chevron-redubs-ship-named-for-Bush-aide-2922481.php

    They renamed her the Altair Voyager - shows they have a sense of humour - Altair in astrology is an ill-omened star and portends danger from reptiles...
    it is also derived from an arabic phrase for flying eagle and is probably Babylonian.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia, in reply to nzlemming,

    That is good. And I have been watching Campbell Live after all this kerfuffle. After the disappointment of the first programme that had fluffy duck stories, I've enjoyed the following two and will go onto watch as a patriotic duty! I loved what Fran O'Sullivan said last night on the Daily Blog live-streaming event: Campbell live has "moments of brilliance".

    I just wish I had a peoplemeter.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Sad about Stella. She was a personality-plus dog.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Last night's lead on Campbell Live: Burger King has joined the companies who have scrapped zero hour contracts.

    This Campbell campaign has changed a pretty big chunk of the employment landscape. Amazing.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22761 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Fantastic result. I hope some political parties were taking notes.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    if anything it has now become open season on their menfolk by Law Enforcers.

    No, that isn't quite right. What has happened is that now white police officers killing unarmed black men is actually news. Previously it occurred just as regularly but it wasn't news.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    RIP Stella Bella Boo

    Our little avenue will be less without her.

    Sympathy

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to nzlemming,

    I clicked through to the ratings on Throng from a couple of nights ago.

    Both 3 News and Campbell Live seem to rate well for TV3 on the +1 channel, whereas OneNews doesn't rate a mention (despite higher popularity overall and lower popular competition from other programmes), which seems a little weird to me.

    Is there some known reason for this? Are people switching from 1 to 3+1 after OneNews? Are people who get home later preferring 3 for some reason? Or am I misinterpreting the ratings?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • st ephen, in reply to izogi,

    There's no mystery here. A large proportion of the population never leave TV One. They watch One News because they've always watched One News. They watch whatever is on after One News because it's on the same channel. They don't switch to watch the Cricket World Cup Semifinal because that's on Prime, which would require pushing a button on the remote that isn't "1" and they haven't done that before and what if they couldn't get it back on "1" again? They're certainly not going to go searching for "One + 1" even if they knew it existed. If they miss the news on One, they've missed the news fullstop.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 254 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Bennett, in reply to st ephen,

    Yes, a big chunk of the 5+ ratings are made up of older people - over 54 - who are considered irrelevant by networks and ad agencies, and who tend to be very conservative in their viewing patterns. Hence the dominance of TV1 in the 5+ ratings.

    Look at the key target demographics of 18-49, 25-54 and HHS with kids 0-14, and you'll see a completely different pattern. This is why 5+ ratings are disregarded by networks as well as producers (though they're frequently used by news media as they are simplistic and easy for readers/viewers to digest).

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 172 posts Report Reply

  • Damian Christie, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Logic might suggest that if they wasted less time and money on live crosses they could deliver more news.

    A couple of years ago I would've agreed with you, but I think we've actually pulled back from Peak Live Cross, which was when we started to see the 'Brady Bunch' of reporters stacked in the corner of the screen all waiting to be crossed to on one topic.

    Last night for instance, on One News, I can see there was ONE live cross - to Corrin Dann talking about the budget - I'd argue that these are the sort of live crosses we want to keep, where ideally (*ideally*) we get some analysis around the story.

    In terms of news, there was 22 minutes. No animal stories, but one track at the bottom of the bulletin on the Kardashians, so take out 1'30" for that. The first story was also about the big dump of snow down South, but I'll save that fight for another day :)

    22 mins = a commercial half hour. The rest is taken up with sports, weather, re-caps, promos, intros all that sort of stuff.

    I'm not saying that's AMAZING, WORLD BEATING etc, but just adding some actual numbers to the mix.

    I'm not sure that 3 News is particularly different from One in terms of that breakdown, I'd be surprised if it was markedly so.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1164 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    The passive TV audience is a serios problem. If too many people get stuck on 1 news – 3 news fails to inform during the advertisement breaks. And that’s bad for the economy. Just imagine a world where Ford is more popular than General Motors.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4341 posts Report Reply

  • Damian Christie, in reply to izogi,

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    Are people who get home later preferring 3 for some reason?

    I’d say yes, at least in the 5+ category (i.e. including 70 year olds) that Throng uses for ratings, far more One News watchers are home at 6pm than 3 News watchers.

    To answer your earlier question regarding ratings, they are tracked minute-by-minute, but usually published in the quarter hours, so yes, if someone watches the first bit of the news then leaves, people know. In fact, there’s not that much drift, and often the 6.30pm story is the most watched. I’ve attached a snapshot of Monday’s ratings (25-54) so you can see how it works. The numbers are % of the available audience.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1164 posts Report Reply

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