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  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    The Herald, through Glucina and Currie have decided to give up any pretense of having moral standards.

    Glucina should lose her job. It's squalid and morally bankrupt. I can accept sometimes deception by journalists is necessary and legitimate when the aim is to hold the powerful to account.
    When the aim is to crush the powerless and protect the powerful, it's contemptible.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2097 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Sacha,

    Note that Glucina is denying the accusation

    Hmmm who should I believe?

    Such a hard decision ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Disgusting, Surely the employer has some answering to do as well.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Alfie,

    if I lived in Auckland I certainly wouldn’t be patronising any of the Hip Group cafés either.

    Not clear yet what role they have played in this latest development, but their venue managers need to protect staff in their care better.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    With Rachel denying the woman's version and Currie backing Rachel, the next step has to be character assassination of the waitress. She's in for a rough ride, how can we support her?

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Apparently Key's ponytail fetish is known as Trichophilia.

    Trichophilia refers to sexual urges or arousal involving hair.

    Treatment is generally not sought unless the condition becomes problematic for the person in some way, or they come under scrutiny of the legal system, and become compelled to address their condition. Many people simply learn to accept their fetish and manage to achieve gratification in an appropriate manner.

    Whoever would have known that was a thing?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    Disgusting, Surely the employer has some answering to do as well.

    It's a big stretch to accept that the employers didn't know what they were doing when they involved Rachel G. They either hung their employee out for the wolves or they are so naive that it is incredible they can run a business.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Alfie,

    Incidentally, if I lived in Auckland I certainly wouldn’t be patronising any of the Hip Group cafés either.

    Yeah this part really pisses me off. It isn't entirely clear that the owners of The Hip Group weren't lied to as well but the most parsimonious conclusion is that they hung their waitress out to dry for the benefit of Glucina, The Herald, and Key.

    And I do go to their cafes, I think I've eaten at most of them and been many times to some of them. What bugs me is their staff always seem happy and helpful - which usually indicates that the bosses are decent and fair.

    Yet on the face of it, the owners of The Hip group have decided it was better business to trick their staff member into an interview with one of the most right wing gossip columnists around.

    It will be hard to stop visiting Hip Group cafes but there are a lot of other nice cafes in Auckland.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    It will be hard to stop visiting Hip Group cafes but there are a lot of other nice cafes in Auckland.

    Another good reason to move.

    I don't think government ministers ever go in Cuba St cafes, but if they did, then the slightest bit of barista or solicita fondling would result in a sharp whack with an empty bottle of craft beer, and the owners would most likely back them up.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    It will be hard to stop visiting Hip Group cafes but there are a lot of other nice cafes in Auckland.

    Of course there are Bart, heaps of them. Make a stand if you want to. It's a good point to make to all employers if nothing else.
    The intention of Amanda Bailey being photographed with her employers was to show her support for them. Throughout this ordeal she has showed decorum and sensitivity for their situation they have found themselves in. Unfortunately for Amanda she is now being revictimised and whether her employers meant that or not, it has put her at the centre of what Glucina relishes and her job will now be in jeopardy. So the bullies are feeling good about that, I bet. It would however be excellent if her employer came out in support of this brave woman, somehow I doubt it. Intimidation has many tentacles.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    http://markblackham.tumblr.com/post/117120840738/pulling-tales

    This is a pattern of behaviour that feels like "predator" to me.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell, in reply to nzlemming,

    or "fetish" or some form of OCD (not that there's anything wrong with either of these, if they're consensual)

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2609 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/shayne-currie-responds-to-pony-tail-gate/

    In a statement, Shayne Currie has rejected the woman's claims Rachel Glucina tricked her into giving the interview by posing as a public relations professional.

    However he appears to concede there was some confusion about her role in the situation.

    "When I spoke to the owners, they told me they had initially thought Rachel was working on a statement to go to all media, along with the photograph,” he says.

    "Given the situation, I wanted to ensure they were satisfied with the quotes they had given Rachel and took the rare step of agreeing she should run the quotes past the parties before publication. No objections were raised."

    Ms Glucina has links to Hip Group's owners through her brother Henry, who works within the organisation.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Paul Campbell,

    or “fetish” or some form of OCD (not that there’s anything wrong with either of these, if they’re consensual)

    When the power imbalance is so marked, it's well beyond the fetish stakes and heading for Saville territory.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to nzlemming,

    “When I spoke to the owners, they told me they had initially thought Rachel was working on a statement to go to all media, along with the photograph,” he says.

    “Given the situation, I wanted to ensure they were satisfied with the quotes they had given Rachel and took the rare step of agreeing she should run the quotes past the parties before publication. No objections were raised.”

    So it WAS a deception – or at the very kindest reading, a mis-understanding. PR ‘goes out to all media’ – a journalist’s copy most certainly doesn’t.
    And Mr Curry fails to mention that objections WERE raised, by the most important of the ‘parties’. "I wanted to ensure they were satisfied" indicates to me Curry was only considering the owners ('they' in the previous par), and probably only consulted them.
    Looks like weasel-words; smells like weasel-piss :(

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2097 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Looks like weasel-words; smells like weasel-piss :(

    I smell lawyers, which is pretty much the same thing.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Alfie,

    It is quite common with young children with autism. Some of those who are very tactile just love patting and stroking hair - to the point of obsession. But even autistic kids can be taught that it is not appropriate behaviour.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3205 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    It's hard to comment on what Currie and the Herald are saying, because by the time I've posted this they'll probably be saying something else.

    Here's the Stuff report (with a touch of Schadenfreude?):

    The Herald issued three versions of its statement on the issue.

    The first said Glucina had approached the Hip Group - which owns Rosie cafe - "to seek comment from them and the waitress for a NZ Herald article".

    The second version removed reference to an article for the NZ Herald, and said Glucina approached the Hip Group after The Daily Blog broke the story.

    A third version added Glucina "wanted to follow-up The Daily Blog post" when she urged the couple to front-foot the issue.

    Translation: Glucina moved fast, and not on behalf of the readers but her friends. Retrospective cloaking (PR as journalism) then followed.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1324 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Attachment

    [edit: huh. I thought that URL would embed the image. Oh, well, here tis]
    courtesy Joshua Drummond

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Bruce Ward,

    Just to add to this, on the front page of today's Nelson paper and under the headline "Key's hair-pulling not OK, says waitress" there appears an article with a photo taken last year.
    The photo caption reads "Prime Minister John Key plays with a young girl's hair as he talks to mothers at the opening of the Nelson Young Parents School at Auckland Point School last year". It certainly shows the man with his fingers in hair.
    I cannot find the article or the photo in the on-line edition at Stuff!

    Nelson • Since Jul 2011 • 32 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Attachment

    Another bit of edit-tracking, by Peter Aranyi.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22761 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    So, the question really is how long before Shayne Currie throws Glucina under the bus?

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    And Mr Curry fails to mention that objections WERE raised

    He edited his claim out of a later version.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB, in reply to Bruce Ward,

    The photo caption reads “Prime Minister John Key plays with a young girl’s hair as he talks to mothers at the opening of the Nelson Young Parents School at Auckland Point School last year”. It certainly shows the man with his fingers in hair.
    I cannot find the article or the photo in the on-line edition at Stuff!

    I found this instead..

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11436774

    If it was a one-off… you might just possibly accept he thought he was helping the girl get her ponytail off her shoulder “for the camera"… but as part of an ongoing pattern- we now know of at-least three females subject to similar – it seems REALLY creepy... especially the bit where it looks like he gives it a quick rub or fondle rather than just move it...

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 887 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB,

    And now, after one person stands up for themselves... more come out of the woodwork...

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11437343

    Prime Minister John Key allegedly pulled the pony-tails of two school girls while on a visit to the national museum.

    Mark Blackham of BlacklandPR said his 12-year-old daughter watched last night's television news and said, "that's what the Prime Minister did at Te Papa to my two friends".

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 887 posts Report Reply

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