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Up Front: Stand for... Something

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  • Ian Dalziel,

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    Flagging a dead horse…

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7944 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Good news... the Herald has another journo who doesn't go all sucky when it comes to criticising the government. Karl Puschmann on the disappointment of the four "chosen" flags.

    I guess this is what happens if you load your selection committee with middle management personnel instead of people with training, expertise and an informed opinion on what constitutes good design.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1436 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Awsome Ian, I like Weet-Bix best!

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • chris,

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    Pointed out in Suff comments. Is it legal for anyone to sell items printed with a New Zealand flag? Would that change if the focus of the design was already a trademark?

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to chris,

    Hmm..

    Detailed due diligence will now be completed on these designs, including robust intellectual property checks.

    https://www.govt.nz/browse/engaging-with-government/the-nz-flag-your-chance-to-decide/open-letter/

    Someone should send an OIA to NZTE and ask if that option breaches their TM. Wonder how they’d answer that :-).

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

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    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to steven crawford,

    I reckon that one would get my vote Steven. ;-)

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1436 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to chris,

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    There must be some chance the pro-fern vote (the fernies?) will be split three ways, allowing the koru, backed by the considerable anti-fern vote and general rabble of lefties to win with <30%.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2110 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Then it can be rejected at the second vote, becouse the black makes us look like terrorists.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to steven crawford,

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    What about this one :)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2110 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to steven crawford,

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    You've nailed it.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah, in reply to steven crawford,

    I love it, Steven! Very, very clever.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah, in reply to steven crawford,

    Steven, can we spread this image far and wide? Both my husband and my eldest daughter burst out laughing when they saw it.

    Or am I totally out-of-touch and it's already spreading like mad on Twitter?

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to steven crawford,

    That’s design is hot, is that a fern in the vulture’s mouth or a fern in the girl’s hair! Magic. Despite that wikipedia vexillology fob off ;)

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah, in reply to chris,

    It's a pony tail, especially for Mr Key.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Deborah,

    Oh I see!!!! =)

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Deborah,

    Steven, can we spread this image far and wide? Both my husband and my eldest daughter burst out laughing when they saw it.

    It's not my own work, it was emailed to me without reference.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    The flag consideration panel published this excellent video from the Designers Institute, explaining the principles of flag design, a couple of months ago.

    And then apparently ignored nearly all those principles. This process is off the rails.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Deborah, in reply to steven crawford,

    I absolutely assumed that it was something your ever fertile mind had come up with.

    I think I might just start spreading it on my networks anyway….

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

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    North Otago landscape no 2 by Colin McCahon

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    A great column by illustrator Toby Morris on what could have been.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to chris,

    North Otago landscape no 2 by Colin McCahon

    My god I love that. Not for a flag, just for itself.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    @shawnmoodie, the creator of the ponytail flag.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4414 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

    He’s one of my heroes, I was turned onto him by Jonathan Mane-Wheoki. As a flag it would probably only work with the beige brigade but it came to mind watching the principles of flag design video. There’s a bit about it, including something of an explanation by McCahon, here.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

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