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Hard News: The sole party of government

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  • Amanda Wreckonwith, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    Winston is in rapid decline. His chance at a last hurrah has just passed and he will disappear into the opposition benches and we won't hear from him again.
    He is a shadow of his former self and one who appears to be growing senile before our eyes. He is always good for a headline comment but his bluster carries little weight nowadays.
    His interviews in the last few days of the campaign became increasingly laughable and sometimes incomprehensible.
    There will be the odd commentator that will spout the usual 'don't ever write Winston off' but former lovers tend to be a tad biased

    Since Sep 2012 • 171 posts Report Reply

  • Farmer Green, in reply to BenWilson,

    a guy who churns even right wing stomachs.

    Someone I never heard of until he became a transitory media idol.
    the whole episode was irrelevant, I suspect, to most people with their noses to the grindstone.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 776 posts Report Reply

  • Mike Graham,

    A few thoughts as to why the left didn't get traction during the last few weeks. To the general newspaper reading voter the perception is:
    1. Oravida - she was 'hounded' for supporting a NZ company
    2. Dirty Politics - a left wing conspiracy theory. Both sides do it.
    3. Kim Dotcom - he's trying to buy his way into politics so he can stay in the country.
    4. GCSB - look at what has just happened in Australia. I don't mind being spied on if it means we don't have beheadings in the street.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 206 posts Report Reply

  • Farmer Green, in reply to Amanda Wreckonwith,

    I know NZ is a small country but the ‘mateyness’ of our media is tiresome.

    Nobody has to watch or listen to it. My alarm clock radio has an off switch, which is getting a lot more use lately. In fact turning it off after the 5 a.m. news works pretty well.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 776 posts Report Reply

  • simon g, in reply to Farmer Green,

    Someone I never heard of until he became a transitory media idol.the whole episode was irrelevant, I suspect, to most people with their noses to the grindstone.

    Yes, as long as we haven't heard of them, they can't be doing anything bad.

    Have you read any history books, ever?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1319 posts Report Reply

  • Amanda Wreckonwith, in reply to BenWilson,

    a plan to get rid of ACC

    I was surveyed last Thursday night about my attitude to ACC - one of the questions was - would I recommend them if they were a private insurance company.

    Surely the Nats weren't that confident prior to the election day?

    Since Sep 2012 • 171 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Amanda Wreckonwith,

    Many underestimate Mr Peters but few live to tell the tale.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Farmer Green,

    They have done the tax cuts already, and they are promising more at some stage down the line.

    The tax cuts they did were financed on our nations credit card. The modest tax hikes suggested are needed to cover our needed spending and because the original tax cuts are a drain on our economy. Cutting taxes in a recession for your core base is good politics, but fucking disastrous for our national accounts.

    I don't think this issue won them office in 2014. They won because they simplified the choice, socialist p.c nutters versus nice John. How they simplified it that way is a topic for much discussion.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    [Posting without having caught up yet.]

    "I have been fairly confident that the tangle of Dirty Politics and the more recent, alarming evidence that the official information process is being corrupted would have to be examined in public over the next year. Now, I’m not so sure."

    Yeah, without even Peters having any influence, I think they have pretty much gotten away with the dirty politics stuff. The Ombudsman's investigation into the OIA misuse will still take place though.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1164 posts Report Reply

  • Farmer Green, in reply to Amanda Wreckonwith,

    I'm all for Winston being made Speaker of the House ; he knows where the door is. And it might shut him up , to some extent.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 776 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I think what has been discovered is troubling and needs setting right. The overwhelming nature of the victory unfortunately makes that less likely.

    I would say that "less likely" is being generous. If I were Key, I'd be taking this result as an endorsement of the Dirty Politics school of politicking. He was quite happy enough to take his 30-point-whatever-percent of eligible-voters' votes as support for asset sales.

    There will definitely be no bigger inquiry into the SIS-OIA-Slater affair, or into the Collins-Slater-Ede affair, or any of the rest of what came out in Dirty Politics. "Nothing to see here, as declared by the electorate. Move along."
    I'm also worried that the Ombudsman's Office is going to get quite the squeeze in this coming term, even more so than it is currently, now that Dame Beverly has declared open season on ministerial interference in OIA responses. The Ombudsmen are our last independent inquisitor when it comes to the government, and the Office is already under significant financial pressure. Keeping on the squeeze so that citizens just stop trying to have bad government behaviour investigated looks to be a given, especially if they want to take on the Executive.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to mark taslov,

    Many underestimate Mr Peters and few live to tell the tale.

    Selwyn Cushing's still on deck.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Farmer Green,

    So your saying, "Don’t watch the biased media, put your head in the sand and they’ll go away." Cheers buddy, I love ya simple homespun advice.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Amanda Wreckonwith, in reply to Farmer Green,

    Oh well, only turkeys vote for Xmas.

    No, I did too.
    Top tax bracket by a long way but happy to do my bit.
    Some of us give a sh#t.

    Since Sep 2012 • 171 posts Report Reply

  • Farmer Green, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    But everyone expects Nicky Hager to try desperately for another five minutes of adulation ; so what? Too boring for most.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 776 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Farmer Green,

    C'mon , whatever you think about Nicky Hagar, you have to admit he had an incredible story given to him.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Amanda Wreckonwith,

    Some of us give a sh#t.

    You may have a clearer picture, what was that business with the tax on inheritance? David Cunliffe said something like if you sell the house within a month of the family member dying then you will avoid the tax, I may have misunderstood, could you clarify it in any way?

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Farmer Green, in reply to Amanda Wreckonwith,

    Top tax bracket by a long way but happy to do my bit.

    Same , but the electorate did not vote for the parties promising tax hikes. But what would they know right?
    They are just the "kiwi battlers " doing it tough through some lean economic times. Who could blame them for thinking that there are still quite a few who are not pulling their weight? Or at least , not working quite so hard.

    NZers do work hard ; that's a fact.
    If they worked out that they were spending three months of the year working to fill the government coffers , can you blame them for not wanting to increase it to four months?

    Whatever . . . . that's the way that they voted.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 776 posts Report Reply

  • Pete,

    Farmer, have you escaped from Kiwiblog by any chance?

    Since Apr 2008 • 106 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Farmer Green,

    Leave Nicky Hager out of this please Farmer Green, he is a valuable New Zealander.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Farmer Green, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    Well . . no actually.
    Maybe I got it wrong. I expected that the paranoid Yanks were spying on everybody. Was that not the only established fact?

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 776 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Farmer Green,

    fill the government coffers

    The coffers, those damn coffers.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Farmer Green, in reply to Pete,

    Haven't heard of it Pete. But I'm in the Rangitikei electorate , and I never heard of Deborah Russell until I read this thread.

    Lower North Island • Since Nov 2012 • 776 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Farmer Green,

    I’m in the Rangitikei electorate

    Say no more. ;)

    Nothing to do with the Americans, Hager’s book Dirty politics was exposing attack politics, using bloggers, shillery, expediting OIA requests, publication of Labour website data with the assistance of someone in the PM’s office and general nastiness, the only tangible upshot so far has been Judith Collins losing her cabinet post.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Farmer Green,

    Your reading assignment is to re-read the book. No skimming this time because as you’ll find other funny stories happened too. It’s a wild read buddy.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

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