Hard News: The Hager saga continues
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CJM, in reply to
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That Front Page, Rupert knew how to sell a paper. Front Page confrontation.
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Sacha, in reply to
feeds of raw information from governments, corporate public relations, political parties, local bodies and any other organisation that can afford to distribute information they want the public to know
NZ already has scoop.co.nz, which adds some analysis to that mix but is mainly a great source of the original releases so you can unearth the churnalism from Roughan and chums.
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mark taslov, in reply to
Because I just don’t understand how Slater warrents so much attention.
The same goes for so much of this, allegations get made, they’re met with denials, though basic googling uncovers blatant lies and obfuscation from almost all the major players, denials suffice. Consuming the data, pontification has become the new national pastime. Everyone’s channels are honed to maximise disciples. 365,000 pontiffs, 365,000+ disciples, The one liner is displaced by the two liner. To be relevant one needs to familiarise oneself with the personalities. The personalities functional adolescence amply obscures the underlying machinations. Phil followed Richards but unfollowed Sabatha, Richards followed Jesamine but unfollowed Tarquin, all five are anti-National but National continues to work hard for all New Zealanders. David’s quit the race, David’s joined the race, the theft of some emails is investigated, the allegations in the emails aren’t, The IPCA maintains ’This is perjury” and “the authority is not in a position..”. Hager’s donations reach $50,000, Grant’s reach ?. Lusk researches methods to minimize the impact shotgun use will have on his golf swing, Key genially shares all purpose tips:
it’s personal choice, but what I do is have three fingers down the shaft like that, and one finger over, and one finger down there. You don’t want to break your wrist – it’s like a pendulum.”
Meanwhile Vegal friends Charlotte, and Pinko fires off a zinger, Geoffrey unfollows Palmer and no one gets mad as hell. Billhelm unfollows Marzipan, everyone gets along and only the unlucky ones get sick and die; their accounts lapse, forgotten but for the obligatory 2 line vicariously retweeted obituary (with video), and in time someone inherits their username and everyone still gets along, Rizzo follows Septis, Merkin joins a group, Seamus starts a second account and everyone just keeps on getting along, getting along as well as you’d expect in a classroom full of teenagers in the absence of a teacher. Oceania is at war with Cameron Slater, Oceania was never at war with Cameron Slater. But Milkfist follows Jughead and Archie Andrews is shot in Pop Tate’s restaurant while protecting his friend Kevin Keller, a newly-elected senator and a campaigner for gay rights and gun control. Feasibility studies suggest it’s all doable, but nothing gets done, in the best faith possible.
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mark taslov, in reply to
Yeah I was pleased to uncover Dr Watt’s report on scoop the other day. It's a great site and resource.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
a suitable case for tweetment…
…and in time someone inherits their username
and everyone still gets along,
Rizzo follows Septis,
Merkin joins a group,
Seamus starts a second account
and everyone just keeps on getting along…Now you’re cooking with gas!
This elevator pitch has legs
(reading between the lines)
- I see a series…8- )
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Kyle MacDonald, in reply to
Is it paranoid to suggest "they" still have leverage?
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Sam F, in reply to
I like that this has now independently appeared twice on PAS, both times describing the Herald...
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Rosemary McDonald, in reply to
Key genially shares all
Damn right...that's what makes him this....
See...we don't know how lucky we are mate...
My claim to fame? I have raised three children to adulthood who don't routinely watch television. Just like the Old People, they find it trite and demeaning. They don't listen to talkback radio, or indulge in the twittersphere. The one Facebooker is over it. They scan the news sites and listen (discriminantly) to Natrad.
And we talk, and talk,
The best we all can do is effect change...or at least insist on insight...within the reach of our own arm.
Or hop into our housebus and opt out for a bit....
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Sacha, in reply to
indulge in the twittersphere
doesn't make you grow hair on your palms.
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Sacha, in reply to
And we talk, and talk
as we do online, like here.
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mark taslov, in reply to
doesn’t make you grow hair on your palms.
I think it's fair to say that it doesn’t make much of anything, I saw the best minds of my ge
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
I saw the best minds of my ge
You’re not wrong.
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linger, in reply to
Rizzo follows Septis,
Merkin joins a group,just reminded me of the cadence of this little allegory:
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WH,
pontification has become the new national pastime
Has it?
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
PG rated.
the cadence of this little allegory
I recognised the rythym,but couldn't remember the source,
worth a reprise though... -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
It's a dogma eat dogma world...
pontification has become the new national pastime
Has it?Just so long as Key & English keeps the nation
away from 'Ponzi-fication'
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mark taslov, in reply to
just reminded me of the cadence of this little allegory:
thanks for the track, I need to listen to more of his work.
It took me a bit of scratching around in the old memory, and though not in this version of the track, it was a staple verse when we used to sing it at school;
Fatty passed to skinny, and skinny passed it back,
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Because I just don’t understand how Slater warrents so much attention.
Because for a long time there he clearly had lofty contacts in the National government that verifiably went up to and included Judith Collins, the prime ministers department and John Key himself, and probably others like Anne Tolley. He was was clearly part of the governments communications policy. His “tipline” and “scoops” came from impeccable sources, and our journalists clearly worked that out even if they were to stupid to make the intellectual leap to questioning the ethics and legality of his activities.
Anyway, anyone who goes and spends a few minutes to scroll through his site now will quickly realise the tap is, at for the time being, firmly turned off. His site is just a collection of internet deitritus and bile alternating with nauseating self-pity.
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Andrew C, in reply to
Do you actually believe the veracity of anything sent to you by Slater? He punked Bomber with this kind of manipulation, and I expect he would love to punk you too.
Ben, do you have a link, or some more details?
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BenWilson, in reply to
I'm referring to revelations from Dirty Politics. Still haven't finished it but could give some snippets tonight if you're interested (and no one else has jumped in).
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Sacha, in reply to
the intellectual leap
it's a moral one; that's the problem.
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I have raised three children to adulthood who don’t routinely watch television.
Sigh.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
He punked Bomber with this kind of manipulation…I’m referring to revelations from Dirty Politics. Still haven’t finished it but could give some snippets tonight if you’re interested (and no one else has jumped in).
Sounds like Hager’s account of how Slater used an associate to post comments under a false ID on Bradbury’s blog at the time of the anti-MMP campaign. While Bomber appeared to react predictably to a somewhat spurious claim that anti-MMP attack ads had somehow violated parliamentary or broadcast rules, Slater et al’s gloating that they’d somehow boosted their flagging campaign by having Bradbury run the videos seemed just another gotcha between political fanboys.
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Howard Edwards, in reply to
From John Roughan's first column after the election: "It wasn't just the endorsement of a good and decent man, the election result made nonsense of the conventional political wisdom that a single party cannot win an MMP majority."
Pardon me - where's the nonsense now?
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