Hard News: An open thread while I'm down with #OGB
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merc, in reply to
AFAIK it is they who swear allegiance to the Queen, not us. Though as Maori were often forced to in the past, Tuhoi springs to mind.
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Sacha, in reply to
It's hard to maintain any policy without electoral support (however ill-informed it might be).
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merc, in reply to
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Simon Grigg, in reply to
Right you are, Sacha, but the whole work was being sung at the time.
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ChrisW, in reply to
Will was one of the leaders of the Patu Squad that day and was arrested shortly afterwards. It was the intervention of Desmond Tutu - who appeared as a witness - that saved him from what was likely to be a severe sentence.
And these things don't just happen by themselves - that intervention was organised by Will Ilolahia's defence lawyer. And one of many good stories told in memory and appreciation of Chief District Court Judge Russell Johnson at his funeral on Saturday was of that day in the legal career of the then youthful barrister - he knew he had the case won when the entire jury stood up for Bishop Desmond Tutu's arrival in court.
It was a massive funeral, in numbers and duration at Holy Trinity Cathedral in Auckland - he was deeply admired, his leadership appears to have been exceptional and will be sorely missed.Brief NZH obituary.
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andin, in reply to
Institutionalisation of disabled people was all done in the name of policy and with the best of intentions.
Cold Comfort indeed.
Sorry Hillary its pure coincidence. Your essay up thread was excellent tho.
And I just wanted to say how much the stories in the thread are beautifully thoughtful.
And to thank Joe for his story.
So with "the best of intentions" both of my parents when suffering from nervous collapse, at different times, received electro-shock therapy in 50's/60's NZ. The conflict of wanting to be free of obligation yet knowing it was impossible in that time(well to them maybe it would always be like that).
They couldnt find any other way through their suffering at the time is all I can offer by way of explanation.
I dont know what affect it had, but they both took their places back in society and as our parents and carried on. Not stoically, but resigned somehow ...I guess.
Still in a daze of shock. Tho' not deficient still there.. Its hard for me to describe with out bringing back a flood of memories. So excuse me. -
Sacha, in reply to
These days someone would ping the protesters for performing rights fees
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Simon Grigg, in reply to
And if footage of it was played three times on TVNZ without such a fee being duly and correctly paid, then APRA would have the station pulled from the airwaves.
Bloody right too :)
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Brian Fallow reports latest wage stats.
Wage and salary earners' incomes only outstripped inflation in the past year because they worked longer hours, figures released yesterday show.
...So in real or inflation-adjusted terms average hourly earnings fell 0.2 per cent and households' labour income only rose because of a 1.6 per cent increase in paid hours.
However, of the 3.1 per cent annual increase in average hourly earnings 1.2 percentage points occurred in the June quarter.
"The Reserve Bank will not be able to ignore the increasing threat of wage inflation," Infometrics economist Matt Nolan said.
...Last week's official cash rate review included a plea from Governor Alan Bollard for wage and price-setters to focus on underlying inflation, which the Reserve Bank estimates is running at less than 2.5 per cent, rather than the "headline" rate of 5.3 per cent.
Just ignore your own experience of basic prices rising way faster than that, folks. And what would the Salvation Army know anyway.
Low-income families in one of New Zealand’s poorest suburbs are facing far higher increases in their weekly grocery bills than the reported consumer price index rise.
The Salvation Army’s Consumer Price Survey (attached) of prices at a South Auckland supermarket, released today, shows a typical sole-parent family has seen a 9.1 per cent jump in its cost of living in the last year.
The Salvation Army has been monitoring the cost of the same basket of food, cleaning and personal hygiene products from the same South Auckland supermarket every quarter since June 2008.
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Sacha, in reply to
Apparently it's about protecting struggling artistes not multinational corporates, you know.
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nzlemming, in reply to
If you have read this far thanks for taking the time, apologies if you are bored shitless, and all the best we all need it.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Thanks for your recollection.
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My memories of 1981 are all about starting school - walking down the hill, crossing the train tracks, then around to Tawa school. The Tour I became aware of later as something in the past that people preferred not to talk about, and when they did, it was always rather obliquely and the topic quickly changed to something nicer. So thanks for sharing these memories of the Tour, I find them really fascinating.
My own political memories start with the anti-nuke law and the Rainbow Warrior. I remember finding it absurd and incredibly rude that big, faraway countries would presume to dictate to us what we do in our own country, then even go planting bombs. Opposition to nuclear weapons seemed so natural and obviously right to me. That was what got me radicalised. It would be nice to think my political views have matured somewhat since then (though I'm not always sure of that), but my feelings about those events haven't changed at all.
And because somebody already mentioned Herbs and nzonscreen is a cool site (though it would be nice if the videos loaded a little quicker over here), I decided to get my daughter started early and showed her the video of French Letter. So she's only four months old and had no idea what she was watching. And she was born in a country that has nukes. But it's a great song, great video, and footage of the Rainbow Warrior and nuclear tests at Mururoa still elicit that exact same raw gut emotive response as they did way back then.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Bloody right too :)
Okay, now you’re just taunting me deliberately :-D
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
One thing I'm certain of, the importance of personality over so-called intellect can't be underestimated. It's absolutely vital for everyone to have the chance to be themselves.
HEAR HEAR!
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Hey, is it OK if I didn't have any particular views on the Springbok Tour at the time. I am so ashamed of my nine year-old lack of socio-political consciousness. :)
That's ok in my book. Reading these memoirs above just made me realise, I had just spent another day stoned in Austalia. My bad. :)
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Rich Lock, in reply to
my La Marzocco Linea
Do you really have one?
Two, actually. One has it's own dedicated room in my palatial Devonport mansion. Three butlers and two cooks later, I'm managing to get an at least tolerably drinkable cup of coffee out of that one (can't get the staff these days).
It's the one I've had plumbed in to the Lamborghini I'm having trouble with. My chauffeur has expressed his bafflement (and to be fair, it's not really within his purview), so I thought I'd ask you chaps at PAS, being the class-traitor connoisseurs of fine coffee that you are infamously known for.
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Che Tibby, in reply to
Institutionalisation of disabled people was all done in the name of policy and with the best of intentions.
they did the same thing with drug-addicted people in the late 60s and 70s as well. they just didn't know how to handle them.
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Sacha, in reply to
class-traitor connoisseurs of fine coffee
tee-worthy
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In the mid-60s you could have wandered in and had a look for yourself, it was pretty open.
But could the residents have readily left? From the account of the family member in the Spectrum Care book trying to get her older brother out in the 1980s was not possible.She talks about being only allowed to take him out for a short time and the distress of both of them when she had to take him back.
Anne McDonald (who wrote her story in "Annie's coming out") was in a similar institution in Melbourne, St Nicholas's, in the 60s and 70s had to have a long court case to be able to leave.
I have a friend who only recently found out he had a sibling who lived and died in Kimberley, and is angry and sad about it. I know it was a different era but surely we can keep trying to do better to our fellow humans.
We still have remnants of such thinking in policy that only lets disabled adults who are in supported living, home for a few days a year. The provider needs them on site to get payment from the MoH. So harmless aging disabled people have to ration their trips home to see elderly parents or to attend family events.
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giovanni tiso, in reply to
It's the one I've had plumbed in to the Lamborghini I'm having trouble with.
You keep the Lamborghini of cofee makers inside the Lamborghini of Lamborghinis? Respect.
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recordari, in reply to
tee-worthy
Who drinks tea?
Two, actually.
Show off. You can keep the Lamborghini, but. *
[Redacted] Whatev's. Anyone want a coffee some time? Rumour has it mine are not too far away from a truck stop in Napoli, which has always been my life time goal.
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yeah, but they're both always in the garage having something done
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Sacha, in reply to
We still have remnants of such thinking in policy that only lets disabled adults who are in supported living, home for a few days a year. The provider needs them on site to get payment from the MoH
Such warehousing is pretty much the same sub-standard management mentality as measuring productivity by time spent at the desk.
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Rich Lock, in reply to
I realise you are joking, and mocking at the same time
Mocking with love, Recordari. With love. :)
I actually use a Bialetti stovetop. Although I've started calling the man in the logo drawing 'Gio'.
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recordari, in reply to
Mocking with love, Recordari. With love. :)
I redacted, but thanks, and the offer stands. Some time in Spring I reckon.
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