Up Front: Towards a Sex-Positive Utopia
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Emma Hart, in reply to
It's good to remove the stigma and shame from sex, but I wouldn't like to totally eliminate the idea that sex is dirty.
No! All the sex must be nice, and...
Dammit, that was actually how far I could get into that whole "happy spiritual loving" thing before I was laughing so hard I couldn't type.
But yes. Basically, having dirty sex = awesome. Telling other people their sex is dirty and therefore wrong = Just Fuck Off.
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Islander, in reply to
<q>Yeah, but you’d sing, right? You weren’t screaming so hard you couldn’t actually hear any of the music.
Mass/crowd singing is *still* one of the most potent things humans can do together...if you add drums (& the plethora of rhythmic instruments) & especial musical instruments (bagpipes/whistles/electric guitars et al) - AND - let there be dancing!!!
Often equals human ecstatic moments-and not only human - Hominidae-
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Islander, in reply to
there is erotic material to suit all taste
Nope!
And we still
make up 1-1.5% of humanity!Emma carefully made sure asexualism was mentioned - for which I deeply thank her- but obviously there is no pornography around that is going whet an asexual's
appetite-o, foood? Did someone just mention appetite? Drool, food, doubledrool drink?
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Sacha, in reply to
what would erotic material for asexual people be like?
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Danielle, in reply to
my aunt told me she went to see The Beatles in Wellington (50s?). She screamed and she didn't really know why, at the time, or 40 years later.
My mother, an actual fan of the music (at least until 'they went all strange and dreary', in her words, after 1965) saw them in Dunedin on the '64 tour. She said they came on and everyone in her section left their seats and rushed screaming to the stage, leaving her bemused in their wake. Of course, she was 18 at the time, so just a bit too old for high histrionics.
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Islander, in reply to
Well - like nothing.
When I meet people - and I have met many many thousands - I am interested in responses (generally literary, or tribal, or as another foodie or the responses of fellow-fishers (baiting, sea-fishing, eeling, floundering) or for political commentary/inclusiveness/assistance to various compaigns) or for matters feminist or to do with home-building or myth/fantasy/scifi) or for those who also like edged weaponry/archaeology/geomorphology) annnd whatever new they have to bring into my life...I have only met 6 out-asexuals (and only 3 of them are from ANZ.) I find a matter in common aside from our asexuality - we've all participated in AVEN and have clarified who we are and what our interests are via that site.
Since AVEN is now different, and the ANZ Asex site is down, there are almost no contacts.
Which doesnt matter. The asexuals I know/knew have very rich LIVES: we tend to be a deep part of our family & friends' social circles, very creative - and very capable.
Authoritatively - there is no erotic material for asexuals-
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Jackie Clark, in reply to
Oh I am so sorry, Islander - I should have said, that there is something to suit everyone's taste who is so inclined.
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
what would erotic material for asexual people be like?
kittens?
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Sacha, in reply to
something to suit everyone's taste who is so inclined
Taste relies on inclination - so yes, there is material to suit all tastes, including none.
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Lilith __, in reply to
Mass/crowd singing is *still* one of the most potent things humans can do together…if you add drums (& the plethora of rhythmic instruments) & especial musical instruments (bagpipes/whistles/electric guitars et al) – AND – let there be dancing!!!
Often equals human ecstatic moments-+1
I did a lot of Latin Dance for a couple of years and while a lot of people thought it was an ideal way to sex it up with strangers, I actually just really enjoyed the dancing. Sometimes it could feel quite sexy, mostly it didn't, for me anyway. With a good partner on a good night, I did feel ecstatic, but that didn't mean I wanted to have sex with that person, or that I didn't want to. It wasn't some kind of sublimation, it was just a really fun shared activity.
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kmont, in reply to
Can I just say: Usher! *sqwee* *melts*
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Russell Brown, in reply to
It wasn’t some kind of sublimation, it was just a really fun shared activity.
I've never done it (I suspect I'd lack the skill), but like a few of us here, I've experienced the sheer, transcendent joy of a Friday night dancefloor.
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Islander, in reply to
kittens?
Nup, I like cats.
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Sacha, in reply to
kittens
pedo :)
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Islander, in reply to
It wasn’t some kind of sublimation, it was just a really fun shared activity.
Exactly!
With- for some- subliminal moments. For many – real unambiguous joy-
there are major human/ major pleasures which are not actually sexual in origin but which can be deeply associated with sexual pleasures. -
Max Rose, in reply to
Dammit, that was actually how far I could get into that whole “happy spiritual loving” thing before I was laughing so hard I couldn’t type.
But ... didn't you know that sex is degrading unless the couple are looking lovingly into each other's eyes? Although that can be difficult if someone is blindfolded, or if there are more than two pairs of eyes involved.
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Emma Hart, in reply to
sex is degrading
You say that like it's a bad thing...
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Emma Hart, in reply to
I did a lot of Latin Dance for a couple of years and while a lot of people thought it was an ideal way to sex it up with strangers, I actually just really enjoyed the dancing.
I loved Latin. I love dancing - I'd almost forgotten how much. It's joyful, sometimes it's sexual, sometimes it's... liminal.
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Max Rose, in reply to
I did a lot of Latin Dance for a couple of years and while a lot of people thought it was an ideal way to sex it up with strangers, I actually just really enjoyed the dancing.
I do know what you mean: the sheer joy of movement can add to the frisson of attraction, or be an end in itself. I love the spark of physical communication through dance, when barely perceptible shifts of balance, touch and attitude can guide the flow of the night. Even in traditional Latin and ballroom, where the man "leads", the influence actually flows both ways, and at its best it's as good an example of non-verbal communication as you could get outside of the bedroom.
And no-one at Ceroc ever took it from there to sexing it up with strangers. No, never.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Personally I blame the Catholic church for not getting any teen sex.
+1000
Bastards
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
sex is degrading
You say that like it’s a bad thing…
Don't you mean ... degrading is sex
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Islander, in reply to
DANCING is a whole other ballgame-
I cant do it-
but I can sing-
I can sing kids to sleep
I can sing sick people into comfort (2 0f my sisters can literally touch sick people into sleep) and
I can sing people to dance-
I have been told, by olds, I
can sing people to war.
I do know that I can halt people with a call.
I dont really want to do that kind of stuff. -
Islander, in reply to
Jackie! You are so couth! And you do not ever make mistakes.
When you come visit my mother and her wee dog - and me - we will welcome you all!
Nau mai, hoki mai! n/n/Keri
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Megan Wegan, in reply to
Oh god, don’t. I made the mistake on Saturday night of proposing that Caitlin Moran might not be completely right about everything in the whole world.
Yeah, don't do that. I did it once, and got hate mail.
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Who is Caitlin Moran? And why is she so disturbing? I googled but was left none the wiser.
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