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Speaker: Are we seeing the end of MSM, and is that a good thing?

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  • John Farrell,

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    Picaresque? Pitcairnesque? The Herald again....

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report

  • John Farrell,

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    Geography fail at The Herald

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report

  • linger, in reply to John Farrell,

    Note also the headline’s victim-blaming femme fatale reference
    (“crash” should presumably have been added).

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1944 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    I note the NZ Herald site travels a day forward with their cartoon roundup today (the 21st) as well as inventing a new ’sheepish’ sounding date the 22th!!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Alfie,

    Hopefully more to come on this topic this year, helped by some great investigative journalists.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report

  • Alfie,

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    Meanwhile Stuff's grammatical decline continues. This clunker is on their front page at the moment.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Alfie,

    This clunker is on their front page at the moment.

    Rather than get an ‘a & r’ man on the job, they’ve changed it to ‘boat man's’….

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • linger, in reply to Alfie,

    Now the link text is corrected as "Catamaran dad's court no-show", though the headline still appears to refer to a daughter called Alan:

    Man who sailed across Tasman Sea with daughter, Alan Langdon, a no show at Te Awamutu District Court

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1944 posts Report

  • Alfie,

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    Stuff appear to be channelling John Key’s accent here. Or maybe it's English's Southland drawl?

    Benfits. Right.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • Susan Snowdon,

    The Green Party and Labour are in a more formal relationship after singing a memorandum of understanding

    Thanks Herald. This I want to hear.

    Since Mar 2008 • 110 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Susan Snowdon,

    singing a memorandum of understanding...

    ... of course Labour has pedigree here (sort of)

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • John Farrell,

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    The Herald, again.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report

  • Jarno van der Linden,

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    Maybe it is some sort of new time-share prison where you get to spend one month a year?

    Nelson • Since Oct 2007 • 82 posts Report

  • Paul Campbell,

    My fave NZ headline (from the ODT) has always been "Police stoned during IRA raid"

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2623 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    Meanwhile over at Fairfax, Stuff have enlisted some geezer named Patrick Whittle (whose PhD thesis apparently addressed the egalitarian political implications of human evolutionary history, including sex/gender differences. ) to mansplain why ’Women are marching because the world really is becoming a scarier place for them’ – he really hammers the point home by getting Katherine ’Kate’ Sheppard’s name completely wrong :

    This country’s “suffragettes” and their supporters, led by Catherine “Kate” Shepherd, were motivated by a desire to achieve sexual equality and thereby reduce violence against women.

    what research worth a damn can he have done that he took any notice of?

    Even the caption writers/subs get in on the act!

    Suffragette Kate Shepherd was celebrated in "That Bloody Woman" at the Court Theatre last year.

    - has history been dropped as a subject in our schools?
    - do journalists not get $10 notes?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/89015522/women-are-marching-because-the-world-really-is-becoming-a-scarier-place-for-them

    Little wonder women are marching!!

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Sheppard's delight...
    Even when ya let them know not to propagate 'alternative facts' (or surname spellings) they still only fix half of them - seemingly Fairfax cannot afford 'find-and-replace' functions on their computers...

    Here's hoping a second comment will get through to them before the day is out.
    (I'm starting to wonder if I should invoice them for 'unsolicited proofreading services')

    ...and I will admit that Sheppard was born a 'Catherine' - but she preferred and used 'Katherine' insofar as I can find - so I'll defer to her choices.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

    TV One News invented a new word last night 'expediate' !
    (in lieu of expedite)

    Matt Nippert's Herald story on Thiel's profitable (for him) VIF partnered deal has Thiel becoming a 'New Zeander'
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11794020

    and the Herald's Leader writer can't even spell Barack Obama's name (Barrack)!
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11794315

    Small blows against the empire of language and communication perhaps, but each one dilutes and diminishes... close enough ain't good enough.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    TV One News invented a new word last night 'expediate' !
    (in lieu of expedite)

    You're too kind.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report

  • Jarno van der Linden,

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    I don’t know if RNZ is being accurate, sloppy, or accidentally correct in regards to Mr Peters’ intentions.

    Nelson • Since Oct 2007 • 82 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Barry Soper really is losing it...

    ...Jackson's likely to be joined by his former Alliance colleague Laila Haare...

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11796352

    How hard can it be to get a public figure's name right?
    Especially when written by a longtime so-called 'political reporter'...
    To not even check it, let alone it getting past all the checks-and-balances that are supposed to be in place - sloppy, sloppy, sloppy...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • mark taslov, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    To be fair he’s been through an ordeal recently, but it’s indisputable that things have gone to the dogs when only the most pronounced error in a given paragraph now merits inclusion on The End of MSM thread:

    Jackson’s likely to be joined by his former Alliance colleague Laila Haare, who incredibly linked arms with Kim Dotcom at the last election, and who now acknowledges that the association tarnished her image. It seems it’s not tarnished enough for be part of the Labour team though.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to mark taslov,

    Good help is so hard to get...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Alfie,

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    Another Stuff-up from one of our biggest media outlets. This glaring typo is on Stuff's front page right now. And the same error is repeated throughout the story.

    Memo to Fairfax subs... the word is "Parapente" -- para refers to anything related to parachutes, and pente is the French for "slope", referring to the method of takeoff. It's pretty basic.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1440 posts Report

  • John Farrell,

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    Oh no!

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 499 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel,

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    According to The Press we still have a law against 'blashpemy'!!
    God save us...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

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