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Hard News: Vision and dumbassery

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  • mark taslov, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    i.e. "over-stayer"/"Obese German"/"Kim the Kraut".

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Actually I just think the conclusions she draws are very very obviously false

    So, can you just say that without doubling down on the mental health shaming slurs? Because, frankly, it's getting as tired as a certain party's gratuitous references to Kim Dotcom's weight and nationality.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Greg Dawson, in reply to SteveH,

    In fact he got treated in the exact same way has Key has treated Hager and Greenwald.

    On a related note, the inimitable Mr Tiso commented on Key's transitory "nice guy" sheen in the preface to his post this week.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 294 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody,

    Given the correction, Russell, as above: [NB: I am now told it was not Dotcom who supplied the email to the Herald], .. where did David Fisher get the email from, do you know? Seems very strange to me that no one has asked - and the Dotcom camp are staying mum on the fact that it was leaked as well. The conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether the Hollywood execs leaked a "fake" of the "real" as a means to discredit it before the MoT - and hence why the "real" was pulled from the presso at the last minute and subsequently referred to Parliament.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    FranO’s not stupid, she just has vested interests with multi-nationals

    Thank you Red, I did not know that.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • st ephen, in reply to nzlemming,

    That NewZealandInc felt the thoughts of Michael Basset were worth posting says it all really:

    You have to feel sorry for John Key that he’s been subjected to so many off-stage alarums and excursions during this, the dirtiest election campaign of my lifetime. It started with Hager’s Dirty Tricks book, dropped close to the campaign, leaving insufficient time to check the details. Hager calculated on our media being sufficiently full of gullible journalists who would fall for his careful selection of stolen emails. But the public became more and more angry and all but a few journalists backed off after a week.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 254 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to st ephen,

    Bassett would know. No doubt he “calculated on our media being sufficiently full of gullible journalists” when he crafted the hapless Don Brash’s Orewa speech.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    The conspiracy theorist in me wonders whether the Hollywood execs leaked a "fake" of the "real" as a means to discredit it before the MoT - and hence why the "real" was pulled from the presso at the last minute and subsequently referred to Parliament.

    Thanks Katherine. As conspiracy theories go, that one makes a lot of sense. It would explain why the email was dropped from Monday's event, and how Fisher alone mysteriously received the document.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow, in reply to Danielle,

    Ok Danielle, I will comply. But I suspect the man is running on empty in terms of his credibility and the electorate's tolerance-levels. Kim Schmidt blew that Moment Of Truth" opportunity is an acute case of over-promising and under-delivering. Even his most fervent disciples are sounding confused and dismayed. And his own personal nightmare will be playing out along the lines of "how did I bungle that and in effect, give my dreaded foe, John Key a leg up?

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow, in reply to Danielle,

    Is that you in the photo?

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    Oh FFS. Do we *have* to do Being a Woman on the Internet *here*?

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow,

    Oh Danielle. Why assume a gratuitous remark when no offence was intended? I collect photography, mainly black and white, but simply think that shot is clever and dare I say captivating in terms of composition and colour....all conveyed in such a tiny image. But mortal enemies we shall remain!

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow,

    It sometimes occurs to me that even asking a strident feminist the time has its risks.
    As in expecting twisted retorts like " I suppose you think women should automatically know the time" ...or " why assume a woman should know when you don't." Greer would be proud.

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    It sometimes occurs to me that even asking a strident feminist the time has its risks

    Don't worry, men think you're an imbecile too.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    +1. I for one am getting tired of playing Troll Bingo.
    [Sigh: see below. More gratuitous, irrelevant ad hominems. Grow up already, dude.]

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1941 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    An Italian Marxist abusing a 4th generation Kiwi? That resonates about as loudly as Kim Schmidt pleading to be take seriously. I might ask Snowden if he can help me check your papers.

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • Dean Wallis, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    Grow up son.

    Point Chevalier • Since Jan 2013 • 45 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    Jake - PA is an environment where we're all fairly familiar with each other, we've argued just about everything to death for more than a decade - as such we're pretty familiar with people coming in and astro-turfing, we've seen it over and over again, it got tiresome long ago.

    Have a look at your latest post it says "Since Sep 2014 • 47 posts" (all in the past week), and look at Danielle's it says "Since Nov 2006 • 3646 posts " she's likely been posting even longer because we only started counting in Nov 2006.

    So as an obvious newbie here you do have a higher bar to jump if you want to be credible - you start again with your real name, you could go out of your way to be polite, you could listen to others for a while without telling them - I'm sure you get the idea ... did I mention the being polite bit, the listening to others bit .... they're an important part of why this place is a fun and interesting place to be .... what it isn't is whailoil or kiwblog

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    Do you get these posts from Penguin's Big Book of Tiresome Rightie Clichés?

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart,

    But guys, remember, it's just that JaJerSamAdam espouses such edgy original and controversial opinions. Like, "That John Key, he seems nice," and "Man, feminists, so humourless, amiright?"

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report Reply

  • Greg Dawson, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    An Italian Marxist abusing a 4th generation Kiwi? That resonates about as loudly as Kim Schmidt pleading to be take seriously. I might ask Snowden if he can help me check your papers.

    This isn't the first time it's come up - there seems to be a growing trend of petty nationalism (and racism, and sexism) across the majority of western democracies, at least since the GFC, and in direct reversal of what had seemed to be a trend away from nationalism in the decade prior. It's an interesting and depressing trend.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 294 posts Report Reply

  • Jake Starrow,

    I've set out to contribute respectfully and reasonably and intelligently today which I have. And any quick reference to the last few hours will reveal the fairly substantial amount of abuse I've received in return. And when I snap back on occasion, out come the knives. Do many of you find it nigh on impossible to tolerate input from someone not part of the predominate persuasion?
    But don't you think it all a little dull if all that transpired was mass agreement?
    On whatever grounds you attack me, it is patently clear it's what I defend, not what or how I say it that really bugs you. Don't be so afraid. Eliminate the risk of this wonderful site becoming just a forum for lemming-like zealots.

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report Reply

  • Greg Dawson, in reply to Emma Hart,

    But guys, remember, it’s just that JaJerSamAdam espouses such edgy original and controversial opinions. Like, “That John Key, he seems nice,” and “Man, feminists, so humourless, amiright?”

    Careful – if you’re too mean he’ll slip back into aposiopesic fits of apoplexy, and then his barrage of posts will take even longer to scroll past.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 294 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Alfie,

    Thanks, Alfie. I've asked it on three other sites too on posts by the following journalists: David Fisher, Tim Watkin and Bernard Hickey - so far everyone's mum as to Fisher's source and indeed Russell is the only one who has included a correction to the assumption that it came from Dotcom himself. As I suggested on Hickey's article - if the Hollywood execs faked their own email - the story would be bigger than Ben Hur :-)!!! What will I do for entertainment when this election campaign is over, eh?

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    mental health shaming slurs

    Ok Craig, on that call I'll accept fault. I also think it was pretty damn clear from my post that I thought neither of those things were reasonable explanations but you are right, even as a light hearted contrast to the more reasonable explanations I was wrong to use them.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4460 posts Report Reply

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