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Next we'll be seeing Roodney in to advise.
Yeah right - on how the free market would have furnished us with excellent building codes?
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I hope that the fact that there are people owing their lives to red tape won't get lost in all this.
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I hope that the fact that there are people owing their lives to red tape won't get lost in all this.
and Gaffer Tape too...
but, yes stricter building codes have been a lifesaver for many - but that's down to processes not individuals...
though whoever signed off on building in Bexley and other high risk liquefaction areas may need to examine their motives...
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If I read the Wellington earthquake maps correctly some years ago, Te Papa is built on the area at highest risk for liquefaction. (And tsunami. And shaking. But it's got super-shock-absorbers. So it will lie intact under the sand and the sea.)
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Leighton Smith this morning compared Mayor Bob to Churchill and JFK. I shit you not.
I'm unsure if that means he will see us through a world war, or if he'll get shot and die way too young.
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Leighton Smith this morning compared Mayor Bob to Churchill and JFK. I shit you not.
A drunk and a serial shagger? (See Herald on Sunday exclusive ...)
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I know the conversation has moved on a little but I'm just coming to it now.
Can I just acknowledge how impressed and proud I was of TVNZ's coverage on the weekend. Particularly Rawdon Christie who fronted the rolling coverage like a pro, and reporter Joy Reid who offered calm, methodical reporting in the midst of it all, and all the unseen people behind them.
For whatever reason, TV3 chose to leave it to TV One. When I switched over to 3 during the morning, they were still playing AbFlex infomercials.
It costs a huge amount of money to scramble reporters, producers, cameras, charter planes and helicopters to provide coverage like that. And for an organisation that's expected to run commercially and return a profit, there's no upside - all the ads are pre-sold, and on Sunday morning there's no ads allowed. Which is not to say I wouldn't expect to see all sorts of congratulatory promos in the weeks to come - it is, as I say, a commercial enterprise. But I think that morning TVNZ acted how we'd expect it to, as a public broadcaster.
I think the tone of the coverage was really good, conveying the significance of the quake, and the damage, while giving good information about what was going on, and what to do. TV3 led its news updates with reports of looting.
As for the HOS front cover, I'm not surprised. Just disappointed.
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As for the HOS front cover, I'm not surprised. Just disappointed.
I'm told by someone senior at the Star Times that, by contrast, they were very focused on tone -- to the extent of removing the word "hell" from a p3 headline before going to press.
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while giving good information about what was going on, and what to do. TV3 led its news updates with reports of looting.
It seems you are not alone.
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Did I hear Bob Parker say on morning report this morning that it was alright to flush your toilet now, even though with broken sewers a lot of the product was likely to end up in the rivers?
Um..yes he did....
We s'pose he can shit where he likes. He keeps telling us it's his city isn't it? Would Jim have done that??
But come on Bobby. Save your creeks. Mitigate mitigate mitigate.
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If I read the Wellington earthquake maps correctly some years ago, Te Papa is built on the area at highest risk for liquefaction. (And tsunami. And shaking. But it's got super-shock-absorbers. So it will lie intact under the sand and the sea.)
I heard it floats.
Rawdon Christie who fronted the rolling coverage like a pro
He did do well - he must've been on the air for close to eight hours.
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For whatever reason, TV3 chose to leave it to TV One.
Sleepy maybe? Maybe cuddly quiet time like Russ and spouse. :-) And .....it was south of the Bombays.
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@Danyl - yeah, there were a lot of staff working a lot of hours on their days off that weekend. Certainly not unique in that regard, but it's worth remembering next time we all slag the TV media...
As for Mark Jennings:
"TVNZ just had the same stuff repeated, repeated, repeated."
Yeah, funny how that works with rolling coverage. People wake up and turn on at different times. It pays to repeat stuff. Otherwise it's like tuning in halfway through one of those long RNZ interviews where after listening for 15minutes they don't bother saying who it was... :)
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3410,
As for Mark Jennings:
"TVNZ just had the same stuff repeated, repeated, repeated."
In response to this, I guess.
20:45 Mike McRoberts:
@nztv @rachsmalley actually what it reflects is a poor decision by 3 not to go with continuous coverage throughout the day. No lead in.
21:12 Rachel Smalley:
@MrMikeMcRoberts @nztv Agreed. Rolling coverage would have most certainly given us a strong lead-in. You're all doing a great job tho.
21:22 Throng:
@MrMikeMcRoberts totally gutting when you see all the effort you and @johnjcampbell put in down there.
21:35 Mike McRoberts:
@nztv thanks for that
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Save your creeks. Mitigate mitigate mitigate
Or just hold the hard (b)logs and miturate miturate miturate (hat tip to Ivor Cutler)
(new to this game hope I got the quoting process right and that my toilet humour isn't too base)
Lyttleton tunnel apparently closed by smoke - it aint over til the fat man (brownlee) singes. Come and visit us over in whakaraupo gerry.
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Yeah, funny how that works with rolling coverage. People wake up and turn on at different times. It pays to repeat stuff. Otherwise it's like tuning in halfway through one of those long RNZ interviews where after listening for 15minutes they don't bother saying who it was... :)
Kind of begs the question why the coverage by Radio NZ murdered the coverage on TV One, given that they were both rolling coverages, no?
(Also, the coverage on TV One kept repeating the wrong thing - that it was a 7.4 earthquake - hours after RNZ had corrected that piece of info.)
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If I read the Wellington earthquake maps correctly some years ago, Te Papa is built on the area at highest risk for liquefaction.
The maps are available at http://www.gw.govt.nz/Earthquake-hazard-maps/ if anyone's curious. The humdinger is the combined map - the take-home from that is that in a big earthquake, you can realistically expect the Ngauranga Gorge to be closed by falling debris.
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In what sense was it murdered, Giovanni? Just asking, I didn't hear the RNZ coverage.
I saw the quake get downgraded on TVNZ somewhere around 9am or so, can't remember exactly. Again, I don't know when RNZ did it.
I have no doubt RNZ did a great job.
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Yo Andy:
Hignurant I was to this new word: miturate.
Alas I couldn't find it in te dictionary but I did find micturate.
"A desire to urinate". I am sure there've been a few damp patches over the weekend.
Thank you.
Hmmm....And down the page meaning.....umm.....I now(!) presume that this is where minge come from.
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In what sense was it murdered, Giovanni? Just asking, I didn't hear the RNZ coverage.
Where to begin to compare them? It was just a better operation all round. More lively, more informative, better conducted. TVNZ's thing was like watching Italian and indeed possibly New Zealand television twenty years ago, production-wise, but was also far less informative, which is harder to comprehend or excuse.
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Oh George, don't be silly.
You know that HAARP caused the earthquake.
Eyes are everywhere on this one Nina – the skies are blanketed in the metal filth again. I have more photos of the disgusting dawn, Pink glowing crap everywhere – which has become quiet ‘normal’.
The east coast fog bank is where they operate out of – the fog never leaves… 100′s of people are awakening we see them and are monitoring. They are FOOLISH. Cameras and video footage are coming in from the most surprising places. They are also operating along the Alpine fault. Some friends have gone bush (into the mountain range behind us) to check some coordinates that we have taken. The HAARP activity fans out from three different locations. Two from the east coast fog line and one in the mountain range. The sleepers are in for the shock of their lives.
It appears they haven’t finished with us yet. Main stream is burbling about the Alpine fault line – but there are awake people right across this area too recording every flight movement.
Reminds some of us of the huge 1931 Napier quake when a US Navel ship happened to be sighted off the coast. My deceased Nana was involved in that one. This technology is lethal. We know how long they have been messing with this technology now – frightening stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1931_Hawke%27s_Bay_earthquake
Reports/pics from the North Islands East coast have the same filthy skies – chemical glow.
My brain is addled from chemical assault, EMFs. Can hardly string two thoughts together but we wont let that stop us.
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I'm unsure if that means he will see us through a world war, or if he'll get shot and die way too young.
Until he's sent a SOS by coconut, I say the comparison is meaningless.
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@Giovanni - Oh well, I've heard enough of your opinions on TVNZ before to assume the chance of you ever being pleased aren't great. I thought they did a great job in a short space of time. Radio can be more immediate - all it takes is a reporter with a telephone - but when you wanna really see the aftermath of an earthquake, pictures are the way to go.
The figures show that 2,000,000 people watched TVNZ's coverage at some point during the day, more than 900,000 watched One News that night (three times the number that watched 3 News, which is probably why Mike McR was so grumpy).
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RE: Radio NZ's coverage. I felt it was more, maybe immediate? TV gave the visual impact when it did get going but with RNZ you didn't need to wait for someone to get the pictures, or for someone/something to get on camera, or to get to a studio, RNZ could do it by phone from the Wellington studio. So they could get going with coverage a lot earlier than TV.
They could also ring a number of present and former staff in the region who could give their first hand experiences of the quake (Interesting that two of those they spoke to were in the San Francisco quake in 89).
Again, voices only and not pictures were needed. My thought on TV was that even if they didn't have pictures to show early on they could be relaying Civil Defence info. I then thought it might be more likely, with power gone, that you could listen to a radio (batteries, in a car) than watch the TV.
[EDIT} @Damian Christie. Hmm, snap, although had not read your comments aimmediately bove when I posted.
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The maps are available at http://www.gw.govt.nz/Earthquake-hazard-maps/ if anyone's curious
My house looks like it straddles the line between a reassuring blue 'low risk' area and a bright red 'high risk' zone.
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