Polity: Refugees and aid - we’re laggards
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
12.07% more of a class divide”. What in hades happened here?
In one word... Thatcher.
nb. Her policies ended up here later, like the Rolling Stones albums in the 70s.
Then again, Ayn Rand?. -
Steve Barnes, in reply to
"Earlier this week, Mr Woodhouse's spokeswoman had said many of the extra refugees were expected to be transferred from Mangere to Wellington, because of the existing infrastructure and Syrian community in the capital."
Ghetto building?.
Who would have thought that a Government of New Zealand, especially one led by the son of a refugee from second world war Austria, would consider such an idea?. -
David Hood, in reply to
Refugees generally go into state houses, so I don't think that there is any ghettoing going on- the will (based on general New Zealand practice) be in mixed neighbourhoods, it is just there are a bunch of people from Syria in the Wellington area already which makes language/ culture easier to bridge.
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David Hood, in reply to
I agree ifitweremyhome is nifty, but I checked the gini figures in a few different places (NZ, UK, World Bank) and there result means they either have bad data on this, or they are misinterpreting a high GINI as more equal- either way the result for that aspect is screwy.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
I have to say that, as far as I can tell, through factoids and accusations, that we only have available State Houses either in the "wrong place" or in a state of repair close to condemnation so the "ghettoing" will also become privatised, ever heard of Halliburton, Carlyle or Serco?
"We can deal with that eventuality" -
Well, the government do seem keen on paying someone else more money to do a worse job for things the government was doing badly to start with (even if governments of the past managed it well) possibly in order to have someone else to blame - prisons, schools, housing, etc. However, for the moment, refugees do tend to be in State Houses (they also tend to have larger family sizes that quite suit the size of state house of years past).
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Daman Saini, in reply to
"Oh, and by the way, Ian doesn’t do evidence, he is an Artist.
Being an Artist means conveying your meaning in an abstract form, being subjective"YOU HAVE NAGGED ME ABOUT HOW I NEED TO GET MY EVIDENCE, BUT Ian, DOESN'T HAVE TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE, BECAUSE HE IS SUBJECTIVE.
I WAS BEING SUBJECTIVE, SUBJECTIVE MEANS = MY UNDERSTANDING
Oh man, if you could say those things if i was infront of you. ahahaha would be a different story mate
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Daman Saini, in reply to
Ethics? Never knew there are ethics in blogs?
Most people are just typing from their basements, only ethics they get to learn are when they come out and grab a sandwich from their mother -
Daman Saini, in reply to
Cut your shit mate. Had enough of you
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Daman Saini, in reply to
My age has nothing to do with it, but when I saw that the average age here is 45. I realised that it is a bunch of old angry men, who cannot get the outcome that they want, and just hate on everything, was shocking.
Just a bunch of old men arguing, instead of physically helping. Can you guys even run a mile?
Not a mile on the keyboard, I can see you can do that easily. -
Maz,
Daman, I was having a go at you, so don't for a second think that we agree.
My point is that we do have the resources, that we do have room, space, ability to take many, many more refugees. Net migration is 50000+, gross figures near 100000/year, so we could so easily take tens of thousand refugees.You could argue that people who emigrate via the usual channels are the queue jumpers; that they get in via money, nice western education etc. Why could we not substitute some of them for far more in need Syrians and Afghani? We could and we should.
This is about being human beings and helping out where the need is great, and people are suffering. Screw our solipsistic pettiness.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Cut your shit mate. Had enough of you
Cut.
Your.
Shit.
Mate.Had.
Enough.
Of.
You....and there is my evidence!
stacks up nicely... -
Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
YOU HAVE NAGGED ME
ABOUT HOW I NEED TO GET MY EVIDENCE,
BUT Ian, DOESN'T HAVE TOMy age has nothing to do with it,
And,
I could suggest that would be Steve's ;) -
Steve Barnes, in reply to
...and there is my evidence!
stacks up nicely...Nicely played Sir.
I am getting a bit frightened though, he used capital letters... yes CAPITAL LETTERS I tell you, oh the huge manatee.
I kid you not, I had visions of him pounding away on his Fisher-Price keyboard with an maniacal look on his poor little chubby face, I feared for my breakfast. -
My average age may well be close to 45, but I'm pretty confident I'm not an angry old man. I'm really not angry most of the time, and I'm definitely not a man. I've also noticed quite a lot of other not-men on the site.
Of course, I may be old, since old is relative. But bear in mind, Daman, that if you're lucky, being old is inevitable, so perhaps reconsider your contempt on grounds of age. -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
CAP-IT-ALL-ISM has a lot to answer for...
I had visions of him pounding away on his Fisher-Price keyboard ...
Meltdown in the toy aisle.
Perhaps Russell can write a note to his/her/its parents/course supervisor/programmers...
What sort of places run third year comms courses?
Can't be many...
Probably mail order - doesn't play well with others...
(or is that 'alpha male order'?) -
Now we have to run a mile to have our arguments taken seriously by communications students? Things have changed a lot since I was at university.
(I am also not a dude, ftr. I do get mildly annoyed when people are mind-numbingly crap at constructing arguments, but I wouldn't say it fills me with rage or anything.)
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What sort of places run third year comms courses?
Can’t be manyYoung Natz I guess , under the watchful eye of the propaganda meister Joyce or some other shape shifting reptile.
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David Hood, in reply to
communications students? Things have changed a lot since I was at university.
People are just making the assumption that he is a University student, for all we know he could be at high school.
I think, looking back through the thread I resolutely gave him every opportunity to engage with comments that seemed to match what he was looking for, but those, from his actions, seem to be the ones he was least interested in replying to or engaging with.
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Incidentally, if you realise the median age of all New Zealanders was 38 years in 2013, and assume there are not many under six year olds reading PA, an average in the mid-40s (where does that number come from anyway) is consistent with PA being read by a full range of the non-child NZ population.
Now I am not saying it is- I have no idea of the distribution around that figure, but an average somewhere else would make it less likely to be representative.
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linger, in reply to
People are just making the assumption that he is a [...] student
Troll = troll. Among all the post(ur)ing, that’s all we can be certain of.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Among all the post(ur)ing, that’s all we can be certain of.
It is only Nat troll...
;-)
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
(where does that number come from anyway)
I thought about that and concluded that, even though he was playing the "I don't really know but you can help me" card, he had some handy profiling at his fingertips. After all, he kept telling us that it was his "Job" to be here.
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Be great to see NZ Labour following UK's lead - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/13/jeremy-corbyn-labour-leadership-victory-vision - that will surely help the refugee situation?
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David Hood, in reply to
Well, pretty much Corbyn's first act after being elected was to go to a Solidarity with Refugees rally, but as the "not in government" party there is not a lot of power to do much in the short term.
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