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Hard News: Wellington, you win

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  • BenWilson,

    Wellington is depraved of good hardware shops.

    Typo of the week. Never checked out the depraved hardware shops of either Wellington or Auckland so I'll have to take your word for it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Typo of the week.

    I brought some dishwashing gloves and a pot plant in a Wellington hardware shop the other day

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Hosking,

    also have never been able to get my head around non-Aucklander's obsession with Auckland, especially as it's not reciprocated. We tend not to notice or really care.

    Very true. Some years back when I was living in Auckland: a bunch of us went on a tramping trip down the South Island. Drove form Picton to Queenstown. We'd often get asked, at stops, where we were from - when we said 'Auckland' the response was usually 'well, won't hold that against you'. Almost word-for-word, almost every time. Delivered as if it was both the funniest line ever and also a deep sociological truth. The first time it was slightly amusing, at a stretch, but by the 20th you start having to forcibly stop yourself from rolling your eyes.

    I'm a farm boy originally, lived in Auckland for 10 years but never really felt part of the place, and I'm a Wellingtonian now, by choice. I love it here. [deep down, though, I still feel like I'm a farm boy]. Auckland's got a lot of memories, not all of them terrible, and a lot of friends and family. I like visiting. Just don't want to live there.

    But, again, there's that chippiness some Wellingtonians have about Auckland, although its nowhere near as bad as you get further south.

    Around the time I moved here some figures had come out which showed Auckland got more rain than Wellington. Got reminded of this rather a lot. Again, found myself clenching teeth and muttering must not raise eyes to ceiling.

    South Roseneath • Since Nov 2006 • 830 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg,

    although its nowhere near as bad as you get further south.

    Try telling folks south of the Strait that a) you are from Ak, and, worse, b) you don't follow Rugby and have no idea who the Crusaders are.........

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Wellington had an ice skating rink for years - roughly about where the library is now in Kilbirnie. I've skated there myself. It wasn't a financial goer then, so it folded, and I doubt one would be now either, though I'm always willing to be proved wrong.

    Assuming they get support from the city council, a rink up there would rake it in. There's a lot of inline hockey players in Wellington, so there's an instant hockey club. Christchurch is a city of similar population, and their rink is busy until midnight some nights. Even if it was a private business they should be able to get a good return on their investment.

    Tekapo opened a beautiful ice rink last year. If a population of a thousand or so can make an ice rink viable...

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    From the sidelines and faintly amused by the arguments and counter-arguments...I lived in Wellington between 1984-1992 and moved to a job at the University of Waikato (initially, a little reluctantly), largely because Victoria Univ was too slow in developing Media Studies, and I was getting sick of earning my keep through a series of contracts (with all demeaning kowtowing that involved). In those years, Wellington was a fairly dismal place if you had young children--especially when faced by months of cold, wet Sundays. The usual solution was 'take them to the bloody zoo again!'
    Now, when I visit, it seems vastly changed, for the better...for parents, children and those people who think that cafes and coffee make a city. I think the dressing-up Rugby 7s is a sign of great change. I saw the 7s (via BBC Sports) in Edinburgh last year and there were no more than 20 drenched spectators

    PS damn Blues beat the Chiefs tonight!

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2557 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    Assuming they get support from the city council, a rink up there would rake it in. There's a lot of inline hockey players in Wellington, so there's an instant hockey club. Christchurch is a city of similar population, and their rink is busy until midnight some nights. Even if it was a private business they should be able to get a good return on their investment.

    There actually was a council-backed ice rink proposal a couple of years back, which was to have been cross-subsidised by a bowling alley. However, the developer broke off the deal after The Lanes appeared on the scene, and couldn't extract any more concessions from the Council.

    There's a Facebook group dedicated to getting an ice rink built in Welly that was featured in the Capital Times. And WellUrban has done some analysis on the issue.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5429 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Now, when I visit, it seems vastly changed, for the better...for parents, children and those people who think that cafes and coffee make a city.

    The Midnight espresso café, Deluxe, Esspresoholic and the closing of the traditional sports/public bars such as the Caledonia, swung my vote for city on the verge of a spiritual awakening.

    It's a pity The Brazil coffee bar has closed it's doors on K road. It had the good industrial grunge aesthetic; Like it was mainlined to Onehunga.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Heh. What did I start?

    I should be clear: it was the combination of virtues on Thursday evening I found so winning: great band, wonderful atmosphere and then the chance to stroll over to a nice bar like the Hawthorn for a couple of drinks. It really was great.

    I used to go to the Dancing in the Streets shows in Auckland before the council had a panic attack about them, but they tended to be a bit crazier, with more out-of it-people. Which is fun in a different way, but ...

    On the other hand, I prefer the weather in Auckland. I know it rains more, but it's warm rain, which certainly wasn't the case on Friday night in Wellington.

    Then there's the beaches, both around the city and on the coasts. The array of live music you can go and hear on any given weekend. The brilliant harbour, the sense of connection to the Pacific, the more satisfying museum (fightin' words!), etc ...

    Apart from my many friends in the capital, the one thing I'd choose to transport to Auckland is the mighty Moore Wilson, both the fresh and wholesale sides. I have a Moore Wilson card and I don't even live there.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

  • Leigh Kennaway,

    I sometimes wish that all the people who've come here from elsewhere would bugger off somewhere else, just for five minutes, and leave the place to the REAL Aucklanders

    we noticed that they do bugger off at Xmas, and the peace that reigns over the week to new years week is quite lovely.Dominion rd (and Mt Eden Rd) without cars was worthy of a photo.

    Fourth generation Auckland, first time caller..... I loved being able to park right where I wanted on Ponsonby and Parnell Roads in the glorious post-Xmas period. Bliss......

    Western Bays • Since Feb 2007 • 79 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Fourth generation Auckland, first time caller..... I loved being able to park right where I wanted on Ponsonby and Parnell Roads in the glorious post-Xmas period. Bliss......

    I've only lived here for a quarter of a century, but it seemed particularly glorious this summer. The weather was great, the nights were warm, and there was hardly anyone on the roads. You could just trundle along and get where you wanted to be, really easily.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    >Wellington is depraved of good hardware shops.

    >Typo of the week. Never checked out the depraved hardware shops of either Wellington or Auckland so I'll have to take your word for it.

    I brought some dishwashing gloves and a pot plant in a Wellington hardware shop the other day

    Don't you know the difference between depraved and perverted? You also need a hamster to suffer from true depravation.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    Don't you know the difference between depraved and perverted?

    Yes, the latter involves a feather, the former the whole chicken...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • InternationalObserver,

    it seemed particularly glorious this summer. The weather was great, the nights were warm, and there was hardly anyone on the roads.

    And yet you rail against global warming??
    You're such a __flip flopper__ ...!
    :)

    Since Jun 2007 • 909 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    hey everyone,

    finn higgins is a regular poster here on PA System, but this past monday he disappeared around 7pm.

    his partner is understandably worried about him, so i'm putting out word on her behalf.

    it's thought that he might have disappeared to auckland. we're hoping that is the case.

    finn is 26 years old, medium height, slim build, dark brown hair.

    he was wearing cargo pants and a black teeshirt, barefoot. he is in need of medical assistance.

    if you've seen him either get in touch with his partner, the police, or someone who can contact her. if you know where he is please ask him to contact home.

    thanks

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    if you've seen him either get in touch with his partner, the police, or someone who can contact her. if you know where he is please ask him to contact home.

    Shit. I have a lot of time for Finn and from private correspondence I know some of the challenges he's faced. My thoughts and hopes are with all his friends.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    if you've seen him either get in touch with his partner, the police, or someone who can contact her. if you know where he is please ask him to contact home.

    Or you can contact Che or myself and we'll pass on the info.

    cheers Hivemind

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Easterbrook,

    I feel a little awkward going back on-topic after that. Fingers crossed - I hope Finn's okay.

    ----

    We had a family outing to the Phoenix Foundation, Lawerence Arabia and Tama Waipara at the Zoo last night. Absolutely fantastic - a huge, happy, well-behaved crowd, kids a-plenty and a great relaxed atmosphere. Nothing reminds you of just how much fun music can be than dancing like a loon with a toddler, with nothing other tha a beer and a coffee enhancing the mood.

    Well done to the organisers (though it did seem a little...odd...having the whole thing presented and MC'ed by ZM, a station that I imagine plays nothing by the artists in question).

    And a big thanks to James Milne - I never thought I'd experience someone playing kazoo at the zoo in this lifetime.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 262 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Picture of Finn here.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Don't you know the difference between depraved and perverted?

    Now that thats been bought to my attention. 'Don't you know' the difference between Bronze and brass.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    I feel a little awkward going back on-topic after that. Fingers crossed - I hope Finn's okay.

    i was worried it was a little heavy, but finn, if you're reading, get in touch with someone bro.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    my wife commented how lovely it was "and how fantastic it would be in Summer"... unfortunately it was February!

    Two reasons for the weather situation.

    1. It makes us better sailors
    2. It keeps the JAFAs away (kaboomcha).

    WRT the rest of the country's obsession with Aucklanders...I have found it the other way (see Damian Christie's pronouncements). A long time ago, literally fresh off a boat, I was told to avoid Wellington like the proverbial. Mostly, its seems, because they spoke funny.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Grigg,

    I have found it the other way (see Damian Christie's pronouncements)

    to be fair Don, DCs comments were spoken with tongue firmly placed, rather than the pure vitriol many of us Jafas have to deal with once we venture past Levin (you rarely get it north of that line, not sure why, perhaps there is a sense of identification with the north). It gets quite nasty at times.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3283 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    1. It makes us better sailors

    That didn't happen for me. I do however have more dramatic sailors yarns.

    My theory about Wellington's grimness myth, evolved out of the rail ferry terminal. It's under the motor way, it's gray and if there's a southerly its cold and windy. I know people in Auckland who only know Wellington as they've seen it in passing. Which apart from the long wait on the wharf could have involved seasickness. On returning to Auckland, the story go's: "I had a good trip but Wellington was pretty grim".

    Another Wellington dilemma is it's civil servants colour neutrality. It's sharpened but the 1970s grays have left there stains on the sea-sickened Auckland travelers minds.

    I'v noticed at Astoria Cafe, the popular civil servant lunchtime hang out, that color's are not cool. The dress code is predominantly black with the odd splash of a red handbag. Sometimes somebody wears fruit salad costume but very really.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    I didn't think, Some of the readers here might not know what where talking about. So I pasted some film of Wellington as it's become a city of the world. I think I saw Che Tibby in there.

    PS. Finn, No explanation necessary. I've enjoyed your points of view. I hope we see another post soon.

    http://mx.youtube.com/nighthawk006

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

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