Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: Burning down the house to feel better

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  • andin, in reply to mark taslov,

    Donald Trump’s Toxic Masculinity

    Toxic culture more like. But the US isnt the only example of this.
    Where are those other worldly therapy sessions held now?
    We've got a basket case here. Can we book an emergency session?
    If there was a path we were supposed to follow, this isnt it.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1890 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace, in reply to Russell Brown,

    He also has a son with those 'high and complex needs' we've been talking about recently, and is on the board of Hohepa. He might have useful things to say about improving disability support..

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3214 posts Report Reply

  • Neil,

    If Little wasn't being advised by Matt McCarten there might have been a chance someone else with less baggage and more progressive values could have been given this opportunity.

    I'm sure they're out there.

    Since Nov 2016 • 374 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to andin,

    Toxic culture

    Yes Andin, toxic masculinity.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Lynn Yum,

    The very act of bursting the bubble is about finding common ground with others rather than living in our own universe.

    I absolutely agree that finding common ground and a way to communicate that cuts through is crucial.

    I absolutely disagree that they are currently going about it the right way.

    And tangentially but not directly related.

    https://medium.com/@tuckerfitzgerald/alternative-history-bb3d53f7d874#.aozkyr7dz

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I had an extremely difficult personal relationship with Willie for some time, because of my criticism of that ghastly radio interview (from which I don’t resile a bit) but he’s a complex character and it does feel a bit like some of his most vocal critics this week only know the one thing about him. But other people perceive a different person.

    Sure, Russell. I don't find it at all difficult to believe Alison Mau that the man she shares a studio with five days a week has never treated her with anything but the utmost civility and respect.

    But let's also remember that "one thing" Louise Nicholas knows about Willie Jackson is that on Radio Waatea he gave Clint Rickards an hour of clear airtime to call her a mentally unstable liar. An interview that got widely picked-up by mainstream media, and was far from the only time Jackson attacked her credibility and character. Nobody should tell her to just GTFO it and move on from that.

    These things are not mutually exclusive. The world is full of bullies and abusers who can put the mask of decency on when it suits them. They'll cry and promise that this time they've changed. And sometimes, it's true. But it isn't often enough, that nobody should be surprised that some are meeting Jackson's promise he's going to clean up his act with some scepticism.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    So Labour gets Willie because Trump. Trump trumps Cucks because Working Class. Immigrants not Working Class because Neoliberalism. Neoliberalism because Libtards.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    8

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens, in reply to Rich Lock,

    From my own ‘micro’ point of view, if I want my liberal bubble burst, I just have to go and stand in the queue at the local supermarket, and while I’m waiting have a quick skim of the front pages of The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Express, The Telegraph, The Times, and so on, and let the vitriol wash over me.

    This doesn't count as "bursting your liberal bubble". This counts as "reinforcing my preconceived notions of people who don't agree with me".

    If you really want to burst you liberal bubble, try talking (or even better, listening) to some people who voted Trump, or spend eight weeks working with pruning gang as a summer job (which is what my sister did after she overheard my nephew being a little snob with his mates), or something else that involves actually engaging with people who think differently from you.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2214 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    Tom, you know jack shit about who I talk to and what my background is. Please fuck off.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Nice story, bro.

    It would be even better if it wasn't coming from people who sneer at those who have spend an awful lot of time listening to Trump and his supporters because they don't have a lot of choice in the matter.

    I get that we live in a world where it is infinitely more offensive to call a bigot a bigot than to be one. And there's always going to be people like you telling women, PoC and LGBT to shut the fuck up every damn time they don't say what you want to hear.

    Tough.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens, in reply to Rich Lock,

    It wasn’t meant to be an insult dude, have a lie down! Jesus, did you get shortchanged by the coffee cart this morning?

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2214 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    See life is treating you as well as it ever does Craig.

    Not sure of your point, other than i can discern it consists of an angry ball of resentment bundled up in a permanent red mist of outrage, so sorry about that.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2214 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Last time I was in a pruning gang it was all immigrants and students. Very high liberal quotient, not a lot of salty earth. How about you? What was your last experience of an eight week stint in a pruning gang like? I'll admit that it did not enjoy the work, it was poorly paid, boring and physically demanding, not to mention involving spending a fair bit on petrol to get to it. I did not see a future in it, nor did I meet anyone who did. The general opinion of people doing that kind of work is that anyone who could be doing anything else would be mad not to. Generally they were full of admiration and envy for people who seemed likely to be on an escape trajectory, whether they were liberal or not. Liberality was pretty much an irrelevance.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Yeah, this thread isn't really useful any more and I'm bored with everyone else being lectured about the workers by a guy who owns a lifestyle block. That'll do. Thread closed.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22830 posts Report Reply

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