Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: Before Lust

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  • Will de Cleene,

    I'm glad I had Felicity Tuohy and Michael Murphy's Down Under the Plum Trees to guide me in my teenage years. This NZ written and researched "resource on sex and social development" featured dozens of candid interviews with teenagers and others on every taboo subject known to the SPCS circa 1976, when this manual was published.

    Raumati • Since Jul 2011 • 107 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    There won’t be just talk on Thursday night.

    Goodness, you made me choke on my milo!

    We had two different heterosexual men lined up, but they both genuinely had to, erm, withdraw.

    You haven't even got two heterosexuals to rub together?

    <coat>

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3890 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Andrew, in reply to Will de Cleene,

    I remember that book - I recall being mildly hypochondrialised by the VD section. Ironic given my utter lack of any opportunity to contract one.

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Andrew,

    Being as I'm actually in Auckers next Thursday, I might well pop along. Given that my other choice is The Feelers (and Minuit, to be fair) at the Cloud I'm only torn because it includes copious free beer paid for by Microsoft (they SO owe me!).

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Jeremy Andrew,

    The Feelers

    how appropriate :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Telfar Barnard,

    Ha, Patricia Bartlett! I remember my mum saying she'd sent PB her books in the hope she'd call for them to be banned, because it would be good publicity. No such luck... I don't know if that meant PB thought they were too tame, couldn't be bothered (i.e. was picking her battles), or just didn't read them.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 580 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Austin,

    Will this talk be available via podcast?

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1021 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Ben Austin,

    Will this talk be available via podcast?

    Now you mention it, yes. Radio NZ will be recording them for broadcast. It's possible they might baulk at the stronger parts, though :-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22761 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Austin, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Thanks Russell

    Surely RNZ has a saucy watershed?

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1021 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Jeremy Andrew,

    It would be great to meet you!

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

  • andin,

    But do some of us also feel a bit wearied by the sexualised world of local celebrities, by the parade of smooth brown pecs and boobs in The GC?

    Its those frustrated TV execs at it, or not. Thinking LCD...LCD....LCD

    Have we seen the “pornification” of society?

    They just make eye candy, nothing more. Flash in the pans, selling their product. Its the trivialization of society driven by nobheads with too much influence thats more the worry. Well for me anyway

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1887 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Oh, bugger. I am bringing up a vanload of students up to join the audience of Media3 that night and, as much as I wish I could, I can't really take them on to the museum. Might warp their innocent little minds.
    Roger Horrick's Len Lye performance opens that night too, Too much choice!

    The Big Screen Symposium in Auckland at the weekend was great--nicely rounded off with 'conversations' with Sam Neill (who was very witty) and Australian director Gillian Armstrong.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2539 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Will de Cleene,

    I'm glad I had Felicity Tuohy and Michael Murphy's Down Under the Plum Trees to guide me in my teenage years.

    ...and their Itch magazine helped, along with Alister Taylor producing a local version of the Little Red Schoolbook ...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7896 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Jeremy Andrew,

    I remember that book - I recall being mildly hypochondrialised by the VD section. Ironic given my utter lack of any opportunity to contract one.

    I have a copy and I know what you mean. Eeew.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22761 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Have we seen the "pornification" of society?

    And did porn itself drive this, or is it simply an offshoot of what society is already becoming?

    There is relatively little sexual display in our culture.

    Is there? What constitutes sexual display?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    I am bringing up a vanload of students up to join the audience of Media3 that night

    Filming will be earlier too - may need to change plans. Ask Russell

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19697 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Sacha,

    Yes . We'll be recording from 5.30 sharp.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22761 posts Report Reply

  • Phil fryer,

    Teenage years growing up in Auckland,Rolling Stones at the Civic,,The Beatle Inn, & the
    Pow Wow club, all I care to say about,lust is, generous morality seems to be the great kiwi way, with more action than talk, & it don't seem to matter, if ya straight,bi,gay,trans,or just fem friendly, it NEVER been difficult to get lucky !

    Laingholm • Since Mar 2011 • 34 posts Report Reply

  • Lyndon Hood,

    He’s a pretty rum sort of Christian conservative

    Just as long as you don't say his opinions are religious, you should apparently be safe http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/opinion/columnists/7600406/Correction-Joshua-Drummond-column

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1115 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1589 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks, in reply to Lyndon Hood,

    I notice they've allowed comments after the original article by Joshua Drummond, but not after Colin Craig's response.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1164 posts Report Reply

  • Samuel Scott,

    I do remember a fair bit casual nudity at BBQs from when I was very young (in the early 80s). I can't imagine any female of my generation going topless at a social event, nor a man wearing little undies type shorts away from a serious amount of water. It's pretty unusual to see a top less man even. Why have we become so fearful of our own nudity?

    South Wellington • Since Feb 2008 • 315 posts Report Reply

  • WH,

    Immersion in our cultural moment has created a sort of sexuality fatigue, a sense that what was once evocative is now either an empty cliche or a frightening political battleground.

    I think people resent being so overtly manipulated by writers with axes to grind and advertisers with products to sell. When I see billboards thrusting oversized vaginas at bored passers-by I sometimes wonder whether something has been lost. Scarcely a week passes where the Guardian - the Guardian - does not publish some carelessly expressed flamebait on some aspect of gender or sex.

    You have to hope it is a juvenile, angst-ridden phase we will all some day grow out of.

    Since Nov 2006 • 788 posts Report Reply

  • Chris Waugh, in reply to Samuel Scott,

    It’s pretty unusual to see a top less man even. Why have we become so fearful of our own nudity?

    Or, perhaps, fearful of melanoma?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 2401 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Samuel Scott,

    Why have we become so fearful of our own nudity?

    I think we're not afraid of nudity so much as embarrassed about not having perfect bodies. People who are super buff have no shame, so far as I can see. You wouldn't bother with all the trouble of buffing to then not let everyone see.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

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