Hard News: About Campbell Live
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Lilith __, in reply to
I thought it was both. “What are the legitimate stories of genuine broad public inerest the other bastards aren’t telling, or telling well and in-depth?” Not only sounds like a good editorial imperative, but identifying a gap in the market you can fill.
The rest of the country had lost interest in Christchurch’s problems. Campbell used to actually get complaints about doing so much on Christchurch.
One of those times where important is not the same as popular.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Maybe the whole issue needs to go to a Royal Commission.
... or a binding referendum - any of those cheap little suckers coming up soon, where we could 'flag' our desires to the Gov't?
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
we need global worming...
And that’s part of the bigger issue that broadcasters are facing now. People are choosing different ways to consume content.
But it is the content people want - not the ads - seems like the parasite is in danger of killing the host - symbiosis ain't s'posed to work that way...
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I'm depressed to see Campbell described as "lefty" in so many places. That may be news to Helen Clark. He's certainly not on Team Key but NEITHER SHOULD HE BE. (Sorry that damn caps lock keeps sticking.) Campbell's cultural background is inner-city liberal, but he's impeccably apolitical, happy to go after either the left or the right. In other words, he's a good journalist. There's a false equivalence in operation that sees Campbell as the mirror of the Henry Hosking Hydra, but an objective look at his record reveals nothing more than a journo doing his job.
I'm inclined to sympathise with Russell's notion that maybe Campbell's audience doesn't watch telly at 7pm anymore (mea culpa) but if your own channel isn't supporting you then it's not hard to organise a fait accompli. It's the politics of this that gets you down; the creeping takeover of media by politically motivated interests. We've avoided the worst of it in New Zealand for a long time but no more.
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This just in from Mediaworks:
CLARIFICATION – Jono and Ben and Campbell Live
There is on-going speculation that the Jono and Ben show is being considered as a possible replacement for Campbell Live. This seems to be based on a fabrication by the Herald and has unfairly led to significant negativity towards Jono Pryor, Ben Boyce and the rest of the Jono and Ben team.
For the avoidance of doubt, MediaWorks Corporate Counsel, Alex Nicholson makes the following statement:
"The statement in John Drinnan’s articles in relation to the Jono and Ben show, which is attributed to “TV3 bosses”, is a complete fabrication and is not based on fact. Jono and Ben has never once been mentioned in any MediaWorks management forum, discussion or document as a possible replacement for Campbell Live. ”
You will note that statement comes from Mediaworks' corporate counsel .
Sounds like things are getting legal up in there.
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Here's a meeting to go to straight after Campbell Live tonight in Chchch
(or watch CL on demand later) - hell, they'll probably be there! -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
...and a further reminder of things Chchch-related
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Michael Meyers, in reply to
Which parts of it do you think are untrue? To my knowledge no-one has ever shown Nicky Hager to be anything but totally rigorous
I tried to carefully word my comment but I knew I would never be careful enough.
What I'm saying is some people disbelieve Dirty Politics, some people vote National and some people watch Seven Sharp. Very few of those people comment here but they clearly make up a good chunk of the population.
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I'm interested in the calls that I'm seeing here for a "real" public broadcaster. It just feels a bit like people thinking that the grass-is-greener.
Overseas there is the BBC, ABC, PBS and probably numerous other examples of good publicly-owned broadcasters. While they all produce good content I don't understand why a body like NZ On Air can't replace the work that these public broadcasters do by funding appropriate shows.
I would much rather have NZ On Air funded appropriately to allow a variety of broadcasters to make good current affairs shows rather than have tax dollars spent on the TV One newsroom.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
JC - journalism resurrected...
...but an objective look at his record reveals nothing more than a journo doing his job.
So true Mr D...
Which is a rare thing these days, that and having somewhere that will run it to maximum effect...
If the worst comes to the worst could someone create 'video-plaques' that pop-up on screen acknowledging history - "This slot was once graced by a fine piece of daily journalism - Campbell Live 2005-2015"...Unlike the stupid floating Facebook,etc links bar The Press has recently added which renders the space bar command of 'screen down' useless, as it obliterates the top 3 lines of type - why woud ya do that?
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Ken Double, in reply to
Unlike the stupid floating Facebook,etc links bar The Press has recently added which renders the space bar command of ‘screen down’ useless, as it obliterates the top 3 lines of type – why woud ya do that?
I'm afraid social media has completely addled the minds of marketers. I apologise on behalf of a benighted industry that has collectively lost its scone.
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izogi, in reply to
I cannot understand what all the fuss is about – talk about do as I say not as I do. The very same media peeps n hangers-on who coagulate in spots like this spent most of september 2014 chasing down stories about dotcom minutiae – the sleazier the better. No mention of state house sales or any other of the issues about keycorp’s corrupt government and their policies.
It's funny you should say this. Campbell Live isn't perfect and has had its dud stories, but my impression is that it's been repeatedly 'punished' by the political wing of the government (through refusing to provide interviews, etc) for daring to be critical at times, and while not a complete excuse, this inability to get access probably hasn't helped with its ratings.
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Sacha, in reply to
I don’t understand why a body like NZ On Air can’t replace the work that these public broadcasters do by funding appropriate shows.
Because under its current model, commercial broadcasters decide which shows get made. That's what needs to change.
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Sacha, in reply to
What I’m saying is some people disbelieve Dirty Politics, some people vote National and some people watch Seven Sharp.
and their broadcasting needs are already being well served.
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izogi, in reply to
There is on-going speculation that the Jono and Ben show is being considered as a possible replacement for Campbell Live. This seems to be based on a fabrication by the Herald
I hadn't heard that rumour but I've independently been wondering if MediaWorks could field popular 7pm slot show, masquerading as analysis of current affairs, by pulling together some of the half-decent comedians it already has affiliations with. I wouldn't expect it to be great in a journalistic sense, but there's already precedent for doing more or less this, with The Project on Channel Ten, which is overloaded with comedians on the payroll thanks to Melbourne's comedy scene. The format would surely appeal to much of the audience currently watching Seven Sharp.
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I'm reminded of this scene from Charlie Brooker's amazing satire, Black Mirror (language NSFW)
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Alfie, in reply to
The format would surely appeal to much of the audience currently watching Seven Sharp.
If you can't beat em, join em? Surely not all television has to sink to that level of brain-dead drivel?
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Stephen Judd, in reply to
I don’t understand why a body like NZ On Air can’t replace the work that these public broadcasters do by funding appropriate shows.
A potential problem with piecemeal, show by show funding, is that it's hard for talent to develop and expertise to build up. Such funding is inherently insecure and short term. It's an issue in many sectors where the product is complex and cultural and improves with practice (see for example science funding).
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How much longer will broadcast TV plague us?
You've got tens of millions of dollars being spent maintaining transmitters on hilltops, dishes on studio roofs and leasing satellite transponders to do something that can be setup on AWS with credit card money. Just in order to benefit from the inertia of viewers watching a channel that's prominent in their EPG.
A future left-wing government would be well advised to give TV3 a little kick on its way. A combination of local media ownership restrictions and increased spectrum charges should do the job nicely.
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wendyf, in reply to
I do. Watch Campbell Live every night. Recorded on MySky.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
I don’t understand why a body like NZ On Air can’t replace the work that these public broadcasters do by funding appropriate shows.
A potential problem with piecemeal, show by show funding, is that it’s hard for talent to develop and expertise to build up. Such funding is inherently insecure and short term. It’s an issue in many sectors where the product is complex and cultural and improves with practice (see for example science funding).
The much greater problem, as Sacha notes above, is getting the programmes broadcast. Nothing can be funded without a broadcast commitment, and broadcasters won't commit to screening something, especially in prime time, that doesn't suit their commercial needs.
One effect of this is the shutting out of older viewers, who are of little interest to advertisers. They were the people most disenfranchised when TVNZ 7 closed down.
There actually is no substitute for a public broadcaster.
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Serious question: who here regularly watches Campbell Live? And by that, I mean the full episode, live to air. Not occasionally watching a video someone has shared on Facebook.
I don't. I really like John Campbell, but I haven't watched the show since the 2000s, and if Campbell Live had been cancelled five years ago I wouldn't have noticed.
You got me.
Part of Campbell Live’s problem may be that fewer of the kind of people who would watch Campbell Live at 7pm are bothering with free-to-air broadcast television. Perhaps in the end we’ll just plain stop bothering.
And you too.
I pretty much feel like my opinion on TV actually should be ignored, because I have almost nothing invested in it at all. I follow news, but there is literally no broadcast news I can be bothered to watch, other than raw footage.
This is no slur on Campbell, who I think is better than the others. But once in a blue moon do I feel inclined to sit through something for half an hour that I can pretty much get in a few minutes from glancing at my Twitter feed, following links and browsing headlines, and reading blogs.
Can't stand the format any more, sorry about that. It hurts my brain the way a CRT hurts my eyes, something I just don't have to put up with any more.
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One effect of this is the shutting out of older viewers, who are of little interest to advertisers. They were the people most disenfranchised when TVNZ 7 closed down.
Ironically, this is the group with time to watch and often money to spend.
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Perhaps Julie Christie should read Martin Van Beynen's Why The Bachelor demeans us all in the Press.
The Bachelor and its ilk are like air pollution. We don't have to live in an industrial zone but we all have to breathe the air at some stage. In the same way, this corrosive show works its way into the general discourse and culture. It sucks the oxygen out of an atmosphere which must sustain us all.
These programmes eat away at the general spirit of the nation. They bed-in stupidity and make it hard for honesty and true creativity to survive.
Such a programme lowers even further the common denominator of viewing taste and tolerance. A contrived and dishonest show which extends the extreme end of rubbish programming and drags the average down with it. If it is successful the effect is even worse. Once programmers see the pap they can get away with to win an audience, they will naturally do it again and so we have a nasty self-perpetuating and descending cycle.
Well said, sir.
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