Posts by Deborah

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  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Pussy is worse than cunt.

    That possibly depends on who you're talking to. I still find the latter word so offensive that I can't bring myself to type it.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Different words for men and women - an old analysis, but a goody. I have a couple of post up about it on my blog.

    Here's Dale Spender's analysis

    and here's the research she based her analysis on, by Julia P Stanley.

    No apologies for linking to my own blog - this is directly relevant to the discussion.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    That's a stunning comment, Jill. Thank you.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    53% say 'yes!', 46% 'no way!', and 6% 'maybe'.

    Which adds up to 105%.

    Please explain.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    I think the Standard is right to have a go at this one too. But Maia is right, as is Craig - they shouldn't be trading on the pain suffered by the woman who was assaulted by Tony Veitch to make their point.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    It is just a matter of degree. Starting from just yelling/swearing at someone through to a sadistic killing it is all a matter of degree and chance.

    That is such bullshit, Ian. Sure, it's a scale, but damn straight we can make judgments about either end of the scale. Yelling / swearing is bad, not doubt, because it's not exactly the way to have a constructive conversation. But your lazy conflation of yelling / swearing end of the scale with the serious physical violence end of the scale astounds me. There are NO excuses for hitting someone, and then kicking them.

    As Danielle said:

    I do rather wonder why some of these guys who 'lose control' on their partners have the ability to *not* 'lose control' at certain other times. Like, say, when they're surrounded by big brick-shithouse dudes in public somewhere.

    Ian, not matter how you say that you condemn physical violence, your continued attempts to find excuses for Tony Veitch's behaviour, the seemingly endless series of comments to the effect that we all go there, the repetition of the 'he just cracked line', sounds very much like accepting physical violence to me.

    We DO NOT all go there and it is NOT just a matter of chance that we don't slip over the line. How damned insulting to every single man and woman on this thread who has been intensely angry and has controlled themselves and NOT gone there.

    Take your tidy little homilies, your tired string of cliched excuses for violence, your lazy moralising, and try them on a Woman's Refuge worker sometime. I will be surprised if she doesn't throw up.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Yes, we will need bridesmaids. Danielle will definitely have to organise the frocks though - I have the feeling her sense of style is somewhat more, um, stylish than mine. Deborah?

    Me? I do a fine line in frump. I want the frou frou meringue dress - pavlova gone mad. Plus gumboots. I was born and bred in Taranaki afterall.

    Moving on.

    To Las Vegas for the wedding of the week, I hope.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    From Anita's fabulous comment just up the page:

    Both of these are the sound of a man continuing to avoid responsibility for his actions.

    Yes!

    This is what you don't seem to be hearing, Ian. You might see someone who made a mistake (some mistake!), but many of the rest of us see someone who is refusing to take responsibility for that mistake, and using whatever weasel words he can to get out of it.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    the how suddenly things can spiral out of control will ring true for many,

    But losing control is no excuse. Ever. That's what makes me feel ill about the press conference and this story in the Herald - I still can't see any sign of him saying I did something badly wrong, without adding an excuse.

    How about Tony Veitch getting the message. Did you notice that nice little sidestep where suddenly it's New Zealand's fault? When is he going to understand that it is his fault?

    As someone said up-thread, there is just too much "everything before but is bullshit" going on.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

  • Hard News: So far from trivial,

    Thanks for the link, maybe, Yamis.

    Gosh, it's all about Tony, isn't it. I see sticky PR fingers all over it.

    New Lynn • Since Nov 2006 • 1447 posts Report

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