Island Life: He lied to us all
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I still think this could blow up in Nationals face
Priceless.
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Forgive me for going off target but I have had this little annoyance for a while. Did Winny state (as I believe) in his pre-election advertisement of 1996 (I think) that a vote for him would ensure the departure of the National Government of the day. He then of course went on to strike his famous deal with Jim Bolger. Anyone know if it is possible to view old party political broadcasts somewhere on the net?
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I knew you guys had to have some non-latte drinkers on tap to do the dirty work. :)
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Sorry, that was for Llew.
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I still think this could blow up in Nationals face
Priceless.
It could if NZ First get their 5% & Key needs the numbers.
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It could if NZ First get their 5% & Key needs the numbers.
I guess that's the point - it's not a bold move if there are no risks.
John Armstrong: Key trusts his currency trader instincts in a high stakes gamble
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/466/story.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10529422 -
Did Winny state (as I believe) in his pre-election advertisement of 1996 (I think) that a vote for him would ensure the departure of the National Government of the day. He then of course went on to strike his famous deal with Jim Bolger. Anyone know if it is possible to view old party political broadcasts somewhere on the net?
In Te Atatu, NZ First candidate (and former Labour MP) Jack Elder campaigned on the slogan "Only Jack can beat National." He was duly elected on the NZ First List, and became a Minister in the National-led government of 96-99 (aka the ship of the damned).
really hate the term 'the beltway'.
Fair enough, but it ain't my term. HC used it with reference to media hysteria over the EFB, and it is now in routine use in political 'reporting' in NZ. For example, the Dominion Post's collection of political blogs is called "Inside the Beltway".
Does appearing under this banner diminish the credibility (such as it is) of Tracy Watkins, Vernon Small, Martin Kay, and Tim Donoghue?
'The Thorndon Bubble' is a pretty obscure term I would have thought (again, no offence to the blog of the same name).
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the Dominion Post's collection of political blogs is called "Inside the Beltway".
i'm not sure than anyone actually reads it...
and the bubble becomes a more familiar term if you ever have to work anywhere near it.
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Che - the Herald's political commentators use the beltway metaphor all the time too.
Maybe 'The West Wing' helped to internationalize the term?
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Maybe 'The West Wing' helped to internationalize the term?
<che sighs at another indication new zealanders can't think for themselves>
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As well as being such an obvious Americanism, beltway just sounds so … pompous.
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Beltway is odd because in the US context, it refers to an actual geographical feature: the Capital Beltway in DC, which is a ring road around Washington. Cf references in UK English to the M25.
In NZ it's a dead metaphor, dangling referent-free in the linguistic breeze. But there is no comparable geographical feature that encompasses the seat of political power and the residences of the influential, or the whole of the capital, so I reckon we're stuck with it.
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A dead metonym, even.
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Maybe "inside the faultline" would suffice?
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Just a thought .... "a vote for Winston is a vote for Labour" does sort of encourage those Labour voters in Tauraunga to switch their electorate votes doesn't it ....
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Just a thought .... "a vote for Winston is a vote for Labour" does sort of encourage those Labour voters in Tauraunga to switch their electorate votes doesn't it ....
Paul: If Labour wants to pull a Wellington Central-style cluster fuck on Anne Pankhurst (and send a clear message to every voter in the country that party voting Labour will land you a red dog with a very daggy tail indeed) be my guest. I was a volunteer on Mark Thomas' campaign, and believe you me National is still paying the price for that particuar mouth-fart from Bolger.
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I was a volunteer on Mark Thomas' campaign, and believe you me National is still paying the price for that particuar mouth-fart from Bolger.
I remember that campaign, I was a volunteer for Alick... but I knew Mark well from student politics. I felt very sorry for him and parliament was denied a good politician.
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there is no comparable geographical feature that encompasses the seat of political power and the residences of the influential
<che sighs again and remembers when they used to just call it "the beehive">
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Inside the Green Parrot?
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Inside the Green Parrot?
That fine dining establishment does do wonderful (if extremely unhealthy) things with offal. You may be onto something there, Mr. Break. :)
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BTW. I still think this could blow up in Nationals face, after all, it seems to be geared to distract from Nationals complete lack of coherent policy.
Well, Steve, perhaps the real problem is that it puts the focus on the hubris of politicians who campaign on the moral high ground they don't exactly have a firm purchase on. Sorry, but it's a little rich to blame National when Clark is pretty obviously trying to "front foot" potentially being outed by Owen Glenn's next communication with the Privileges Committee. Slippery Helen got any more secret agendas she'd like to share with the class?
As I said up thread, watching politicians wriggling on the hook of their own hubris? Priceless.
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a dead metaphor, dangling referent-free in the linguistic breeze.
Post-election Winston?
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politicians who campaign on the moral high ground
I don't think Winston has campaigned from the moral high ground. If he has campaigned from any high ground it has been the high ground of ethics, something that is, sadly, lacking in anything we have seen from National.
Winston has fought against the most despicable rort this country has suffered since the land grabs of the 1800s The blatant support of the National party in the raping of our country by the greedy (greed was popular in the 80s remember? it managed to cripple Labour for a while as the result of Muldoon's mistakes) was the reason Winston distanced himself from them. He does consider Muldoon to be his mentor, in some respects and those respects were he same ones that made the people of this country to respect Muldoon. History does, indeed, repeat but let us not fall down that path that follows the signpost that says "Trust the free market" -
I can't believe people are defending Winston.
He's getting his just desserts now.Clark should sack him, even if it means the government dissolves.
She's sacked Labour ministers for less.And why should we lead the world with the emissions trading scheme?
Nobody else cared when we deregulated our trade in the 80s, why would they care now?
By all means have a scheme, but do it in line with Australia. -
Anyone know if it is possible to view old party political broadcasts somewhere on the net?
That's just so sad....
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