Island Life: A simple 'your lordship' will do
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I don't think Dr would be used for expert witnesses but rather stating that they have a PhD, its field and their experiance in that field.
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The lawyer who brought the witness might use 'Dr' lots. Helps build up that impression of authority with the jury.
"Dr Whatshisname, in your expert opinion, is the accused the only person that could have...", "Dr Whatshisname, in your extensive research in this field, is there any other explanation for..." etc.
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As a kiddy I had the wonderful Mrs Hundleby (not sure of spelling).
Sometimes kiddies get confused and so I had called her, Mrs Bumblebee, Mrs Butterfly, & to my great embarrassment, Mum. -
As a kiddy I had the wonderful Mrs Hundleby
Shep, not June Hundleby?
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Protocol dictates that it is bad manners for a PhD to refer to themselves as Dr, particularly on planes or in phone books because it may be confusing in a medical emergancy.
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Whose protocol? "Doctor" was established as a title given to people of higher learning long before it was ever applied to physicians.
And you never know when someone might be having an existential crisis in the middle of a trans-Pacific flight! :-)
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The Wiki (of course) on the use of the title "Dr".
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Emma - I don't know her 1st name but Mrs Hundleby was at Riccarton Primary.
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So I'm a Dr in Italy - cool.
Of Course their is the Dr & my fave the Master:
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Emma - I don't know her 1st name but Mrs Hundleby was at Riccarton Primary.
That's her. She taught my kids in 2000 and 2001. She's choice.
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Andrew _ I thought it was part of the right of passage that the next phone call, after Mum, was to the Koru Club to change the title.
Emma - Glad to hear she hasn't changed.
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FletcherB's story about Brigadier Lowe triggers a memory from Primer 1, wherein Mr Wright the Visiting Traffic Officer asked us littlies how one could tell if someone was married.
"Because they're called 'Mr' or 'Mrs'?" I ventured.
Nope, that wasn't it, because people could call themselves whatever they liked. Apparently, the way you could tell someone was married was that they wore a ring on this finger.
I seem to recall that when I went home and reported this new tidbit to my parents they pointed out that people who were free to use whatever name they wanted were certainly capable of making their own jewellery decisions. Nobody ever explained to me why you would need to tell if someone was married. Especially in preference to learning how to cross the road/wear our seatbelts/etc.
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I've been called by my first name at work since I moved to an inner city Wellington School in the mid 80s. In those days it was considered frightfully radical.
When I left to live and teach in London 4 years later I couldn't contemplate being addressed by my students in any other way. Despite concern from the English teachers I worked alongside ("they'll never respect you!") I had no problems- well on the whole less than those around me.
Now days only those who I taught in the first 3 years of my career greet me with an honorific. (horrible term!)
King Kapisi always says "Hi, Miss Annett" :0)
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A (male) friend of mine who did some supply teaching in London was constantly referred to by his intermediate-age students as "Miss". They had never had a male teacher before and thought Miss was the title you gave all teachers, regardless of gender.
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I went to a Steiner school as a child, and it took me YEARS to be able to use the terms "Mr" or "Mrs" after that. In fact, I still can't.
When I book planes for the family I use my husband's academic title. It hasn't got us a decent seat yet.
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It's gotta be a bit of a push & a total waste of time to go after Ms Thompson the ex-Immigration head for fiddling her quals a decade ago for a job she left years before now.
Nothing like the PM to damn an employee hired under the Nat govt.
Named, shamed and gone now, best let it go I recon.
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I suspect the PM would quite happily let it go. The Labour Ministers have been tagged with it because they were aware of it while it was being investigated and didn't intervene (apparently under legal advice).
The fact that she was appointed (twice?) by lying about her qualifications on National's watch doesn't seem to have risen to the surface very well. I'm sure Cullen will remind everyone of that fact if he hasn't already.
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