Hard News: Vision and dumbassery
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stephen clover, in reply to
Michael, I love you :)
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So Key didn't publish the name of his staffer who passed the SIS emails to (spit) Slater ... because he wanted to protect his privacy .... the rest of us apparently don't deserve privacy, on planet key it's apparently only available to National party toadies
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BenWilson, in reply to
Yes that’s a bit of a bummer about kelvin Davis. I am going to vote for IM anyway. Bugger the polsters.
Good call. It's still a signal, even it if doesn't result in political power.
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Michael Savidge, in reply to
Nice one Richard.
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Get the feeling that Australians are extremely grateful that comprehensive surveillance has resulted in a handful of crazed jihadists being apprehended today, allegedly planning to behead somebody.
Surveillance is there to catch baddies, not goodies.
Thankfully here, the Moment of Truth became the Moment of Farce. -
Dismal Soyanz, in reply to
I could even burn old whales oil
Nah, the filthy contaminants would foul up everything.
This from wiki seemed on the money:
Whale oil was used as a cheap illuminant, though it gave off a strong odor when burnt and was not very popular.
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Rich of Observationz, in reply to
Or, they caught a few loonies who shouted a lot about it whilst giving many innocent muslim kids a genuine grievance.. Some of those might not talk about it, they'll just do it.
I think most people here would rather live (as we do) in a society where people get on and don't want to kill each other, as opposed to a prison state where people only don't kill you because the guards are watching.
Obviously you don't, but consider how easy it would be for some kid who hates the world (but hasn't exposed that fact) to get a job in an arm of the State and gather a fairly comprehensive list of rightbloggers and their home addreses.
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Rich of Observationz, in reply to
Brilliant. Can I have a copy.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
See Michael Homer's links, around 19 posts upthread.
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Do we have to pick a side: surveillance is here and it's a bad thing (IMP), surveillance is a really good thing but we don't do it here, oh no (JK).
The Jakes of this world act as though they don't know what's going on, don't need to know what's going on, but they're all for it anyway. Well Jake et al., that's the very opposite of an "informed decision".
People who make uninformed decisions are, not to put too fine a point on it, dangerous.
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Awesome, even if it also eats my riposte?
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
even if it also eats my riposte?
Swine/pearl filter.
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Greg Dawson, in reply to
I suspect the most effective way of dealing with a troll’s persistence is literally to ignore him. He will eventually literally go away.
Pertinent discussion at making light on just this subject – the first few comments are worth reading – based on some recently published research into the effects of different treatments of trolls in online forums.
Headline findings (from the washington post summary)
(1) People who write low quality posts are more likely to write again when they get negative attention. Furthermore, the quality of their posts deteriorates. This goes beyond the simple adage that you shouldn’t feed the trolls by giving them attention. The evidence suggests that negative feedback can perhaps actually create trolls. It also suggests that people getting negative feedback are more likely to give others negative feedback, too, spreading the infection.
(2) People who write high quality posts are encouraged by positive attention to write more. However, they aren’t as encouraged by positive attention as bad posters are by negative attention. Furthermore, the quality of their posts does not go up. Broadly speaking, encouragement doesn’t seem particularly effective.
The focus was on upvote/downvote based forums for the research, though the making light discussion goes more into what might be effective alternatives for the modern commenter.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Which reminds me. Fiji election! They have there democracy back!
#yeahright
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Sacha, in reply to
That would be the low grade black whale. Sperm whale was clean burning
really don't want to carry this metaphor to its ending
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
That would be the low grade black whale. Sperm whale was clean burning ( still is )
For really high quality grease the pishtaco is the expert.
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Trevor Nicholls, in reply to
Love your avatar, Joe. I only just realised :-)
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
concrete jandal,
And the livin' is easy.
Props to Marley...
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nzlemming, in reply to
Love your avatar, Joe. I only just realised :-)
Leaves me cold ;-)
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Sacha, in reply to
When you click the button, it hides all other posts by that user afterwards
Genius. Have wanted that for many years.
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Jake Scarrow lives on planet Key. On planet key there are no toilets So that is why Jack Scarrow is full of shit.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Genius. Have wanted that for many years.
Then I should take this moment to say,,,, Byeeeee.... ;-)
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stephen clover, in reply to
"whale oil -whaleoil -slater -beef"
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Whale meat again
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Sacha, in reply to
heh
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