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This is the sort of crap that the ABCs have been doing.
The source just says sources. Doesn't say it's an MP, or even from the Labour Party, though presumably it is. Given the fanaticism that Gower and Garner have been been pursuing anything that smells like a story to do with the Labour Party leadership, including several flops, I'd take it with some grains of salt.
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BenWilson, in reply to
Doesn’t say it’s an MP, or even from the Labour Party
Indeed, it might not even be of this earth.
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Henry Barnard, in reply to
It’s also hard to reconcile the unity talk with the “let’s fuck the ABCers” stuff, and that definitely worries me. My enthusiasm for a bloodbath is very low.
So is mine. As for the ABCers, whoever they are, they are, as always, just fucking themselves. Like Deborah, I will get behind whoever is elected leader... and I will try and do my best to, not so much forget as put to one side what I have witnessed during this process.
I have already had my wine :)
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Gower is not well liked in Labour generally, on any side, I would have said.
Well, I know it's not going to be popular (kinda) defending Gower hereabouts but if he's as prone to just making shit up as some folks would have me believe it should be remarkably easy to not only get him sacked, but rendered basically unemployable. I'm more than a little tired of listening to politicians perfectly happy to shovel shit in journalists' direction, playing the outraged innocent when the bad karma bites.
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Deborah, in reply to
I have already had my wine :)
"had" ? !!!!
What is this past tense? I know it not.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Must be a wierd environment out there in Beehiveland. Makes Parliament look like "Days Of Our Lives". I refuse to believe that.
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Trotter brings the disgusting. Wanker.
Also, again with the hyper-personal attacks on women and gays who have the temerity to challenge a privileged world of workerism.
And really, pretty hilarious to accuse Matthews of membership of the Servos for "legal" reasons when you are making an argument in favour of a man who joined a union when a Minister...
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nzlemming, in reply to
Would Gower really take an off the record quote from the DC camp, and spin it as Cunliffe’s opponent’s hating his guts? That’s a pretty big assumption to make, no?
Disagree. This would be business as usual for Gower who has no form on inside gossip in the Bubble, but thinks he's some sort of oracle.
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Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
Can someone please tell him.
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nzlemming, in reply to
True. As I said, the MP who really likes him is Collins – a mutual feeling, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I think he more fits the role of Useful idiot as far as the Nats are concerned.
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Henry Barnard, in reply to
Guards! Seize him!
Honestly, sir, we didn't hear anything: it was too high pitched.
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We will have to get used to this sort of thing:
Ed Miliband won the election, the result of which was announced on 25 September 2010, after second, third and fourth preferences votes were counted, with the support of 50.654% of the electoral college, defeating his brother by 1.3%. In the fourth and final stage of the redistribution of votes after three candidates had been eliminated, Ed Miliband led in the trade unions and affiliated organisations third of the electoral college (19.93% of the total to David's 13.40%), but in both the MPs and MEPs section (15.52% to 17.81%), and Constituency Labour Party section (15.20% to 18.14%), came second. In the final round, Ed Miliband won with a total of 175,519 votes to David's 147,220 votes.
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Sacha, in reply to
I'd read his prompt action in standing Michie down as an olive branch, wouldn't you?
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Sacha, in reply to
maybe clumsy is being so obvious about it? :)
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Hebe, in reply to
Gower who has no form on inside gossip in the Bubble
My sense too; a prime target for jack-ups.
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
Also, again with the hyper-personal attacks on women and gays who have the temerity to challenge a privileged world of workerism.
Colonel Trotter seems to be putting words into Grant Robertson's mouth (and David Cunliffe's, for that matter).
I've posted before about this, but one of the major reasons why the 1981 Tour didn't become NZ's French May 1968 was because the union movement was split over the Tour. In fact, veteran unionist Ken Douglas was on record saying that a sizeable number of them "weren't out in the streets, but on the grandstands of Rugby Park".
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nzlemming, in reply to
In fact, veteran unionist Ken Douglas was on record saying that a sizeable number of them “weren’t out in the streets, but on the grandstands of Rugby Park”.
Cheering on the bashing, in fact. Because rugby.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
I’d read his prompt action in standing Michie down as an olive branch, wouldn’t you?
I thought that.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Colonel Trotter seems to be putting words into Grant Robertson’s mouth (and David Cunliffe’s, for that matter).
Colonel Trotter completely lost the plot this week.
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Paul Campbell, in reply to
We will have to get used to this sort of thing:
Aren't we already? - many of us use STV to elect our councils - I expect a ballot, with more than 30 names on it for me to rank, to arrive in my mailbox any day now ....
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Steve Parks, in reply to
Trotter brings the disgusting. Wanker.
I pretty much agree with the Rebecca Matthews FB comment Trotter quoted so disapprovingly. I note she added in the comments of the Trotter article: "I am not against discussing homophobia, that’s just silly – I am saying that people who say its a reason why Grant shouldn’t be leader aren’t progressives."
Fair enough, too.
However, I read for the first time in Trotter's article the actual comment in full from Michie, and the question it was in response to. It was a poor response, for sure, but I think a reasonable person could conclude that she didn't intend it to be a dog whistle. Curran portraying the comment as saying NZ wasn't ready for a gay Prime Minister and it was probably the biggest dog whistle ever was pretty silly.
Yet, I expect a 'lefty/liberal' asked the equivalent question but involving race, or gender, would answer quite differently. Technically, the answer should be the same; it would still be "naïve to imagine" there'd be no resistance to a Maori PM. But I just don't think the answer would have been so acquiescent.
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Henry Barnard, in reply to
Aren’t we already? – many of us use STV to elect our councils
I meant the discrepancies between the balances in favour of one candidate or other in the various divisions of the electoral college. There is much talk about how dreadful it would be if the fall of the die was not the same in all divisions. David Milliband led amongst the MP/MEPs but Ed in the other two divisions. Not sure what the result would have been had the weightings in Britain (a third to each) been like the NZ (40%,40%,20%)
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Trotter brings the disgusting. Wanker.
Surely you had to laugh at this bit:
In many respects Cunliffe’s predicament is akin to that of progressive Americans living in the USA during the McCarthyite “Red Scare”.
Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with these people?
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Something in the water?
Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with these people?
Interesting alumni of the Otago Uni Debating Club* last century?
I (Michael Laws) went to Otago University with the public front-runner, David Cunliffe.
We were colleagues in the exceedingly egocentric debating club - the same vintage that produced Canterbury University's vice-chancellor Rod Carr, prize-winning journo Rebecca Macfie, former Bankers Trust boffin Craig Stobo, liberal-lefty granddad Chris Trotter and diplomat David Pine.*Warning: Contains words passed and parsed through Michael Laws...
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And really, pretty hilarious to accuse Matthews of membership of the Servos for “legal” reasons when you are making an argument in favour of a man who joined a union when a Minister…
Also Rebecca Matthews (no relation, but she's a friend) is a member of SWFU because that's the union at her workplace. She works for NZEI, but she's not a pre-school teacher, she's a service worker, hence her union is SWFU. It's not 'legal reasons', it's... joining your correct union reasons.
I filed the comment about McCarthyism in the same box as people being raped by the media comments.
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