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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • nzlemming, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    at least, in the past they weren’t.

    I seem to remember it was a screw up at CNN that set the current standard.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Before the early 20th century the Republicans were on the whole the more left-wing of US political parties. Lincoln was a Republican and Jefferson Davis a Democrat.

    It wasn't until FDR that the current positions became fully entrenched.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • mpledger,

    I read "Dirty Politics" on Friday - I wasn't particularly shocked by the vileness of the people involved as that had been talked about on all the blogs. The thing that astounded me was how all the people around Whale Oil, including the journalists just bought into his bully boy routine - National pollies whined to him "why are you attacking me?", the journos cosied up to him to get the quote or the leak. Even worse, the journalists were complicit in his gaining such power to bully and abuse by using him as a source.

    Noone actually had the guts or integrity to take him on. And if the media can't take on a (supposedly) lone cannon than how can we get them to keep a well funded, large machine like the government to account.

    Thankfully, someone in the end decided to take him on.

    Since Oct 2012 • 97 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Given the depths the participants in this sordid affair sunk to, I've been surprised at the lack of international coverage of Dirty Politics. I suppose that we're just a little island (or two) at the bottom of the world.

    Today's Guardian has an overview from Toby Manhire fittingly called The whale that swallowed New Zealand's election campaign.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    It wasn't until FDR that the current positions became fully entrenched.

    Which was previously kicked off by the 1912 Republican Split, where Ted Roosevelt led a breakaway progressive faction (that later threw in its lot with FDR) from William Taft's conservative rump that forms the basis of today's GOP.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Alfie,

    Given the depths the participants in this sordid affair sunk to, I've been surprised at the lack of international coverage of Dirty Politics. I suppose that we're just a little island (or two) at the bottom of the world.

    Today's Guardian has an overview from Toby Manhire fittingly called The whale that swallowed New Zealand's election campaign.

    So far...

    * Sky News AU - so far the only overseas in-depth coverage of Dirty Politics outside of the Guardian
    * ABC, but only at the end of the article
    * The Australian, again only at the end of the article

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    ...overseas in-depth coverage

    I'd like to see John Oliver get his teeth into it...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I’d like to see John Oliver get his teeth into it…

    Nana Van Beynen at the Chch Curtain Twitcher has given it a soft gumming.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    And not sure if it counts, but the Naked Capitalism blog has written positively of Hager's exposé... and Cactus Kate's suspected ties with crime syndicates.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Savidge, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    …overseas in-depth coverage

    I’d like to see John Oliver get his teeth into it…

    I'd like to see Russell Brand take a whip to it....

    Somewhere near Wellington… • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Michael Savidge,

    I'd like to see Russell Brand take a whip to it....

    I've just tweeted him, I'll let you know if I get a response.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    And not sure if it counts, but the Naked Capitalism blog has written positively of Hager’s exposé… and Cactus Kate’s suspected ties with crime syndicates.

    That is gorgeous! Donkey deep, as they say.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to nzlemming,

    To paraphrase Russell: didn't see that coming (not).

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    More overseas coverage via the Guardian, courtesy of Ant Loewenstein.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    David Fisher in the Herald on his relationship with Slater - the point at which Key moved from "blocking" Slater to talking, texting and posing for photographs at his side, accusations that Fisher was "suffering withdrawal symptoms associated with alcohol and drug addiction" and the latest "Time for all your emails to come out Fish" threat from Slater.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Tim Michie, in reply to Alfie,

    A very quotable piece.

    Auckward • Since Nov 2006 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    Dirty Politics has also made the Times of London, but the article's paywalled. Ditto for this Crikey article by an expat NZer.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Dismal Soyanz,

    I suspect he's pre-empting Slater publishing anything vaguely incriminating.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    the article’s paywalled.

    Not really a problem, its only the rich that need convincing. ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to nzlemming,

    Slater publishing anything vaguely incriminating.

    My thought too...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to nzlemming,

    Yes. When I first read the article with that veiled threat by Slater at the end, I did wonder. Quite self-destructive on Slater's part if he did release any of Fisher's emails but after reading 'Dirty Politics' trying to understand his motivations only leads to a very dark place.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    ’neoilogism’?
    Susie Ferguson and her writers must be credited with a starter for ‘Word of the Year’ describing someone as having been slatered on the Whaleoil website’…
    (or my mishearing her)
    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Oh don't give the guy oxygen.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Oh don’t give the guy oxygen.

    Beg to differ there. Slater's like anaerobic bacteria. That's why his enablers are so keen to put the lid back on.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

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