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  • Rich of Observationz,

    I'd hope (but wouldn't expect, given the territory) that the organisations producing these apps don't underestimate the technical work involved in getting such a thing to scale and operate properly.

    Not to mention the problems in achieving a critical mass of drivers and riders. Were it me, I'd start in a relatively small regional centre (Queenstown?) where Uber isn't active yet.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • goforit,

    Thats so true, the Ezygo app idea was put in place 18 months ago thinking it would be up and running in 6 weeks. The real upside of this app is the persons behind it did not seek investors/shareholders so therefore the commission can be keep low as possible. That was alway the theory behing the app, look after the drivers working it not shareholders and IT companies, where as Uber and its IT operation its all about Uber taking every thing from the drivers whom actually do the work.

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/80943322/dozens-of-illegal-uber-drivers-caught-in-nzta-stings

    Scores of Uber drivers have been caught driving illegally in stings targeting the global ride-sharing giant.
    In Christchurch alone, the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has caught around 60 illegal drivers over the past several weekends.
    It was like "shooting fish in a barrel," one Uber driver said, due to the number of non-compliant drivers in the city.
    It reflects escalating tensions between Uber and the NZTA, which has warned the company many of its drivers were likely breaking the law.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7939 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Some hot air from Uber in light of NZTA acting against its drivers.

    Uber has not said if it will pay the fines issued to its drivers but has issued a statement saying it will stand by them.

    "No one should be penalised for providing safe, reliable rides in their city, and we will stand by our driver-partners 100 percent.

    "We hope the government recognises that these local drivers are looking to earn a flexible income and decides to support them by creating regulations that open up economic opportunity and choice."

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • goforit,

    Hi Ben, I see you are in the news again.

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • goforit, in reply to Sacha,

    If we expands Uber statement, if we made all jobs part time there would be no need for any regulation.
    This week I am going to be a part time Doctor therefore I don't need to be certified in that job. LOL

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    If you treat someone and they die, our organization will stand by you 100%. And no, obviously you can't have that in writing. Because that would be evidence of a crime by us. So harden up and run straight at those guns, stark naked and screaming. We're right behind you. About 35 miles behind you.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • goforit,

    Hi Ben are you starting to figure out uncle Uber

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to goforit,

    'economic opportunity' for who, you ask?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • goforit,

    the who would be uncle Uber lol

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Wellington airport makes a very sensible choice.

    I hope some other major NZ corporations take note of this. The risk to their own reputations is very real when it comes to health and safety laws, and what putting their staff into vehicles that are essentially completely uncompliant with NZ passenger laws, and probably not even properly insured, might mean to them on that sad day that a really bad accident happens.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    As far as I'm aware, a number of corporations have already tried to make their displeasure known to Uber about the April bundle of kicks-in-the-balls, but have found something that practically every driver experiences in communication with the Uber management - that they are very hard to reach. Good luck using the telephone. Good luck with meeting anyone at all in person, unless you want to go down to the "Green Light" center and hassle one of the poor sign-up staff (who would seem to have even higher staff churn than the drivers themselves, so punishing is the cognitive dissonance involved in the job).

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • goforit,

    The noose is slowly tighening, Now one airport has decided the Transport Act is to be respected lets see if the Auckland Airport follows. It was not to long ago when the Auckland Airport made the suggestion that if taxis did not lower the fares they would look at Uber.

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Ben you've been named in despatches - taken to the leader (in Chchch anyway)!

    NZTA's campaign shows the company's guidance was clearly wrong and in fact illegal. New Zealand Uber Drivers' Association chairman Ben Wilson says, as a result, almost every one of its drivers in the city is non-compliant. Uber spokesman Richard Menzies hopes the rules will be changed but has not commented on the fact it gave bad advice.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/81110622/editorial-uber-should-have-known-better-than-encouraging-drivers-to-cut-corners

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7939 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Someone is issuing dodgy WoF/Rego stickers in Northland. To be consistent, NZTA will just go after the drivers not the issuers, right?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Uber spokesman Richard Menzies hopes the rules will be changed

    pffft

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • goforit,

    Ha Ha, just youthful mistake, Bull s++t Richard, Oscar, Aj, Mike when he was there have all been over the years and many times been told what the Act was all about. Fine and close Uber down until they operated in a compliant manner. No one is staying stop Uber but they must operate in a compliant manner

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • goforit,

    Looks like all the world of Uber has gone very quite, I wonder why?

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • John Farrell, in reply to goforit,

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 496 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to John Farrell,

    Yes indeedy.

    "We want the judiciary to rule on this", said Uber public policy associate Ben Brooks at an Auckland hearing today on submissions for an inquiry by the Transport and Industrial Relations select committee into the future of New Zealand's mobility.
    ...

    Select committee member and Labour MP Iain Lees-Galloway asked Brooks and NZ operations manager Richard Menzies why Uber was continuing to run a business in a way that is illegal. Brooks said "We're encouraging them to work that way. The NZTA is saying it's illegal and we're contesting that."

    Clearly breaking the current law is not something a court will waste time arguing about.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19705 posts Report Reply

  • goforit, in reply to Sacha,

    Uber certainly don't want to comply

    Auckland • Since May 2016 • 314 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to goforit,

    In my case the world of Uber has gone quiet because I have an extremely difficult exam tomorrow. Which made the 4 or so hours I spent on this particular move that Sacha linked to very much all I could give to the rights of drivers today. An interview, and a discussion about whether to send someone to talk on TV in the morning. In the end we're holding off. Now I'll get back to Cramer-Rao lower bounds and the intricacies of least squares estimators.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Sacha,

    It's quite amazing that they would have the arrogance to suggest that the drivers they shat on should be testing their right to be shat on out of their own pockets on behalf of a corporation with billions. There's so much wrong in there it's hard to know where to start.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    I mean Uber could at least front up with the legal preparation of what case could possibly be brought by a driver that the law should not apply to them. "Because Uber" is not a defence in NZ.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    I imagine no one reading that article failed to notice what Uber means by "standing beside drivers 100%"? It means "we'll get back to you on that". Seriously, did the spokesman just make that up on the spot, that they urge drivers to contest cases? FFS anyone busted has no choice but to test it in court. They already are testing it in court. And losing, because there is no case.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

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