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Speaker: Are there opportunities within the Government’s childhood obesity plan?

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  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Sacha,

    Why? I do not see anyone asking for advice.

    It was earlier said that;

    I know the cheapest way to fuel hungry people is hot chips.

    That is a falsehood which I felt should be corrected - as someone might actually believe it to be true.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    Oh, this is hilarious! What a fucking grim Friday night dinner that would be. "Here, everyone, let's huddle around this warm and satisfying tin of sardines!"

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • B Jones,

    You left out the $20 or so you'd have to pay me to eat sardines.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    I vote for Friday Night, canned sardines on wholewheat toast night! But I won't do it until my hot chips are taxed into oblivion, because, unfortunately, it will also be Friday Night, timeout and bedtime without any dinner night for both kids. By their own choice, probably.

    Ironically, I personally eat quite a lot of canned fish, because it really is cheap protein, and those gourmet cans can be quite tasty. 85 cents a can is hard to beat. Sardines are even cheaper - I bought a whole bunch of cans on a parsimony trip. I ate one, and the rest are sitting there waiting for the zombie apocalypse. They're sprats! Ews!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Danielle,

    “Here, everyone, let’s huddle around this warm and satisfying tin of sardines!”

    No, we wouldn’t "huddle" around it – as you might do around chips in paper - we’d put the sardines on toast on a plate, sit down at the table, require everyone to use their fork and knife properly, talk about what happened at school/work during the day and afterwards we’d have green jelly and sliced banana. And I’m serious.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    That is a falsehood which I felt should be corrected - as someone might actually believe it to be true.

    Fair enough. What led you to believe that other commenters here do not understand nutrition?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to B Jones,

    You left out the $20 or so you'd have to pay me to eat sardines.

    times every child :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to B Jones,

    You left out the $20 or so you’d have to pay me to eat sardines.

    Had you started young – they'd be one of your favourites.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    What do you want me to do here? Genuflect before your obvious superiority?

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Those Countdown tv adverts about 'feeding 4 for $15' remind me how much veges cost nowadays by their lack of them.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • B Jones,

    Also cost of table, knife, fork and toaster.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Danielle,

    What do you want me to do here?

    No, cut out the sarcasm, this is a serious subject - ask anyone hooked up to a dialysis machine three times a week.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    The way women can feel pressured/socialised into monitoring other people's behaviour saddens me, as a bloke.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Katharine Moody, in reply to Sacha,

    What led you to believe that other commenters here do not understand nutrition?

    Someone referred to fizzy drink as food.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2014 • 798 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    No, we wouldn’t “huddle” around it – as you might do around chips in paper – we’d put the sardines on toast on a plate, sit down at the table, require everyone to use their fork and knife properly, talk about what happened at school/work during the day and afterwards we’d have green jelly and sliced banana. And I’m serious.

    I am with you 100% on that, Katharine.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4327 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    No, cut out the sarcasm, this is a serious subject

    You don't say!

    I think what is peeving the shit out of me here is that we apparently have to lay bare our souls and lives for you to accept that we might know something about this and to stop giving out unsolicited advice like you're the fucking oracle. I don't need to tell you my life story for my argument to have validity.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Danielle,

    No, we want you to eat up your sardines like a good girl.

    Oh, and you have to eat your toast with a knife and fork too. That way you won't end up on dialysis.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • B Jones,

    I ate loads of sardines when I was a kid, and I even liked them for a while. But not any more.

    Mussels and a baguette might be close, but that presupposes cooking gear.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    This old saw.
    I have taught in low socioeconomic areas for 20 years.
    I am the donations coordinator at the Mangere Women’s Refuge and I’m with the women and their kids quite a bit.
    The solutions to these problems are not as simple as some commenters may have suggested. Neither do the solutions presented seem to work. For a very simple reason.
    Not all people are the same, and you cannot target specific portions of the community and expect things to change.
    If we are really interested in slowing down all the sugary food intake, a multi pronged approach is required.
    Not all people struggling financially eat junk food.
    Not all Maori/Pasifika people are obese.
    Not all people who earn enough to live on eat healthily.
    And on we go.
    If we could stop with the judgements, and actually think properly about what’s causing the problems, we may get somewhere,

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    Someone referred to fizzy drink as food.

    Indeed. Even my children know that is actually a drink.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10641 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    If we could stop with the judgements, and actually think properly about what’s causing the problems, we may get somewhere

    amen

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • JacksonP, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    No, cut out the sarcasm, this is a serious subject

    You're not here to discuss anything. You are certain you are right and have no interest in engaging with other people's way of thinking, and seem to have no empathy for people with limited or no choices.

    I think sarcasm is a reasonable response. I just wonder why you keep doubling down.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2011 • 2448 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Katharine Moody,

    Someone referred to fizzy drink as food.

    Sorry, I must have missed that. Any hint where in this thread I should look?

    I know carbonated sugar drinks are opposed by healthy food advocates because they have zero nutritional value, thus only downsides. Our current govt is far more interested in Coca-Cola's corporate profits than that, naturally.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    I might be missing something, but Isn’t Katharine just sharing her opinions and experience, just like everyone else normally would, when there not all getting together to do a big turd.?

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4327 posts Report Reply

  • B Jones,

    Its usually about six pages in when the argument starts to become about the argument, right? I guess we've hit that point, which is a shame because I had some good recipes for hot gravel to share.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

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