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Speaker: A simple strategy for Trump to win the Presidency

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  • Barry -,

    Good analysis of tactics, however I disagree on the bit about what Trump will actually do. Trump is dangerous for what he encourages other to do with his rhetoric of hate.

    With both Clinton and Trump you can tell what they will do based on their previous actions and ignore what they say which is purely designed for elections.

    Clinton will be a more rational version of GW Bush

    Trump is a businessman. every decision will be based on value to him and to teh enterprise that is the US.

    He is not going to go to war over a parking ticket.

    Wellington • Since Sep 2015 • 7 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Pattison,

    Trump, as president, will be much more benign than is being made out. His policies are nothing more than click-bait and will be abandoned once he is in place. Think about it, deporting Muslims would start a civil war. How would you do that? Where do they go? Put them all on a boat and push them out to sea? Requiring Mexico to build a wall could ruin NAFTA. Nobody will listen to him and I don't think he has the political nous to extend the office any further than the experts who went before him. I suspect he will end up simply rubber-stamp Republican congress initiatives in return for baubles and the odd legislative gimme.

    Auckland • Since Aug 2014 • 24 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Trump may as well be in power now it seems...
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/79912669/trip-to-new-york-ends-in-being-cuffed-in-a-cell-and-mystery-deportation

    You're a young Australian artist with a growing international reputation and slew of upcoming exhibitions in cities around the world.
    First up, travel to New York for your solo exhibition at a major art fair. Or so Hamishi Farah, 25, hoped.
    But what unfolded was more like a real-life episode of Homeland. You know, the one where people of colour get locked up without charge.
    ...
    Farah arrived, went through customs and had his passport stamped but was told he needed to go upstairs for further questioning.
    Two guards, one with an assault rifle met him, and his phone, bags, shoelaces and passport were confiscated.
    They refused to let him make phone calls or contact anyone, and he was put in a cell. At one point he was cuffed to the wall.
    "I was mocked by them for being an artist when I tried to explain my story, they called me an idiot and a prima donna," says Farah, who is represented by the Minerva Gallery in Sydney.
    They repeatedly tried to bait him about what an artist is, and said they failed to believe he could make work or "find inspiration" without the use of drugs, he said.

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    But what unfolded was more like a real-life episode of Homeland. You know, the one where people of colour get locked up without charge.

    Closer to home, our resident curtain-twitcher believes that you should simply suck it up if you're the wrong colour.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Dave Patrick, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Closer to home, our resident curtain-twitcher believes that you should simply suck it up if you're the wrong colour.

    Dammit, now you've made me go and look at something written by Martin van Beynen, and I've been doing so well recently completely ignoring him.....

    Rangiora, Te Wai Pounamu • Since Nov 2006 • 261 posts Report Reply

  • Katita,

    in return for baubles

    I love that word, a la Winston 2005 or Nigel

    I'm not interested about your nicked knick-kacks. Your burgled baubles bore me

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 65 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Dave Patrick,

    Sorry Dave ):

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    This one indicates the level of ill-informed paranoia rife in the US as well - scary place.
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/07/passenger_delays_flight_after_mistaking_professor_s_math_equations_for_terrorist.html

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood,

    There was that Reuters/Ipsos poll just released where Trump was in a dead heat with Clinton, but that is (at the moment) assumed to be the occasional rouge poll that just happens.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1444 posts Report Reply

  • Greg Pittams,

    It's probably not even that difficult. If he makes enough noise about NAFTA, Goldman Sachs, Iraq, Libya, etc to turn off the Bernie crowd while at the same time scaring the religious right enough about Hillary making abortion compulsory, he probably wouldn't need Hillary to tack right.
    Being outside the GOP mainstream opens a bunch of attack vectors that wouldn't be open to a more conventional candidate.

    Hong Kong • Since Mar 2010 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Greg Pittams,

    Being outside the GOP mainstream opens a bunch of attack vectors that wouldn't be open to a more conventional candidate.

    The question is: will Trump's 'unorthodox' policies and approach attract more independents than it alienates conservative base/establishment voters. I think it's dead right that Hillary aiming for the 'establishment republicans' (many of whom probably are sympathetic to where she's positioned) will lose her the election.
    If Hillary can get Bernie on side, working hard with her and mobilising some of his support, she should be able to win handily. That's compromised by the many Sanders supporters I see echoing all the old GOP attack lines against Hillary, and adding a few new twists of nastiness and entitlement.
    Sanders is walking the line here: mostly keeping it clean, but sometimes stepping over the line in his criticism of Clinton and the primaries themselves.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2091 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    The likes of Trump are what America gets - and especially the GOP itself - when those at the very top "hire half the working class to kill the other half", in the supposed words of a 19th century railroad baron during a major industrial dispute.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5419 posts Report Reply

  • linger, in reply to David Hood,

    rouge poll

    I love this term: suggests exaggerated influence of red-state rednecks…
    (or results entirely made up: a conspiracy theory to make one blush!)

    Tokyo • Since Apr 2007 • 1889 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood, in reply to linger,

    Colour me embarrassed at the misspelling, though since the poll favoured Trump, it should probably be a strange shade of orange result.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1444 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood,

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1444 posts Report Reply

  • Kirk Serpes,

    What interesting is that Latinos are suddenly signing up to be citizens in very large numbers, just so they can vote against Trump. Historically turnout in the Latino community has been pretty low but this clown might just change that. http://www.npr.org/2016/05/14/477811056/are-more-latinos-becoming-citizens-because-of-donald-trump

    Auckland • Since May 2015 • 20 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Kirk Serpes,

    What interesting is that Latinos are suddenly signing up to be citizens in very large numbers, just so they can vote against Trump. Historically turnout in the Latino community has been pretty low but this clown might just change that. http://www.npr.org/2016/05/14/477811056/are-more-latinos-becoming-citizens-because-of-donald-trump

    Yep, Trump has indeed united Americans. Against him.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5419 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Trump may as well be in power now it seems

    May as well be..

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Kirk Serpes,

    What interesting is that Latinos are suddenly signing up to be citizens in very large numbers, just so they can vote against Trump.

    Trump has just been ordered to hand over the Trump University records by a US court. In a nutshell, the "university" which was never a licensed educational establishment sold high-priced courses in entre­pre­neur­ship. How to make your fortune in real estate, just like the Don.

    New York State has filed a $40m suit which alleges that Trump defrauded more than 5,000 individuals. The business is also facing two additional class action lawsuits for fraud and closed its doors a while back.

    In an ironic twist, the judge hearing the case is Hispanic, and that didn't sit well with Trump. He stated that the judge “happens to be, we believe, Mexican” and called him a “hater of Donald Trump”. The trial is scheduled for November, before the Presidential elections.

    Karma.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1386 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood,

    Not quite. The trial is scheduled for November the 28th, 20 days after the election because the judge wanted to avoid the media circus of having the trial during the election campaign.

    The judge was born in Indiana.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1444 posts Report Reply

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