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  • Moz, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    When the media, whatever branch it maybe, reports on the dismal performance of the Labour party and then apportions blame in editorials etc, that is not showing bias but simply reporting the situation as it is.

    Sure, that's true. But when the exact same media gloss over the dismal state of the National Party and leap to close off disasters that National create as quickly as possible that is bias. There have been more than a few instances noted here where Cunliffe commits some gaffe and most of the media are all over it, but then later in the week Key does something worse and the same media don't report it at all.

    The Lui letter was a simple example: Cunliffe signed a form letter supporting a constituent, but then couldn't remember it 11 years later. The very same week Key could not remember whether he'd been briefed on actions taken by the SIS within the last year, despite him being legally required to be briefed. Both of those are an important part of the job, but one was much more recent and more important to the running of the country. Guess which prompted media calls for a resignation? Is that bias?

    Sydney, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 1233 posts Report

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Moz,

    The Lui letter was a simple example

    The Liu letter was probably a set-up. Cunliffe wasn't bagged for signing it, so much as the appearance of lying about it. Nats set the narrative (bumbbling and tricky) and probably set up the trap.
    Key's 'I don't recall" is a master-class at avoiding these situations. After slipping up with 'I'd never heard of KDC until' he wasn't going to get caught again, if possible.
    So not really the same...

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2120 posts Report

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    Remember Auntie Harold's campaign against the electoral finance act? 72-point headlines screaming 'ATTACK ON DEMOCRACY'? Acres of newsprint devoted to reporting on (badly-attended) marches? Ring any bells? C'mon, it ran for weeks, it must stir a faint memory.

    Contrast and compare their coverage.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    So not really the same…

    Not the point. Contrast and compare how roughly similar situations were covered by the media.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • Jake Starrow, in reply to Moz,

    Me thinks you're seeing the facts through labour-tinted glasses, which as we know are about 25% accurate as per their pitiful polling.

    Since Sep 2014 • 77 posts Report

  • Trevor Nicholls,

    pitiful trolling, Jake, whoever you really are.

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 325 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Trevor Nicholls,

    pitiful trolling, Jake, whoever you really are.

    In fact, Russell has outed him as a sock-puppet.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • Marc C, in reply to Jake Starrow,

    Jake, I am not surprised, the way you comment resembles exactly the kind of reaction that comes from people who are the exact proof of what I commented on. I hear and see this too often, where the result of the media imbalance, and in some corners even true, blatant manipulation, is showing. Many are not even aware how they are being misled, by polls that are not really all that representative, by reports on supposedly "political" issues, which are though only selected "topics" of the "gotcha type" politics that Hager has written about.

    Nicky Hager made one mistake, well perhaps it was intentional, to leave out the MSM in the "Dirty Politics" revelations. I am convinced, and I have read and heard enough information, that tells me, that the network between Cameron Slater and other "shock jock" operators (including David Farrar) and a fair few "journalists", is wider than some think. There are enough happy to do a bit extra, to "pay back" or to "hit" and "expose" politicians, who may have not answered to questions as wanted, or who may simply be personally disliked by the dirt and mud digging brigades. And I am sure there was a little "help" from the Offices of Collins and Key, when it came to discrediting, attacking and embarrassing one Labour leader after another, first Goff, then Shearer and later Cunliffe, while John Key got away with far too much. This is no coincidence.

    The "spin" so many journalists have put on certain comments, actions or non actions by opposition politicians this election campaign is at a level NEVER seen before. We have a government exposed by 'Dirty Politics', by new revelations to come on Monday, presenting hardly any policies and little in the way of a program, that gets aways with so much, while most are busy undermining anyone in Labour, the Greens and New Zealand First.

    But as the propaganda is working so well, the ones that do not see it as it is, they stubbornly adopt an attitude, claiming it is all their own fault. Yes, indeed, that is how scape goating works, as it has in history, blame someone, present them as losers, repeat the message hundreds of times, and even lies will turn out to be believed by too many. It works, and hence they do it. Sadly it was barely for two weeks, that the media bothered with looking at the many things Hager and that Rawshark hacker revealed to us. They have all moved on, as the paymaster tells them to find new fodder, and stop bothering with what they sniffed on before.

    Auckland • Since Oct 2012 • 437 posts Report

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