Hard News: The Mega Conspiracy
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alobar, in reply to
so a business should only be prevented from continuing to offend if its a criminal matter ?
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As the only person game enough to admit to ever watching Breakfast, I'll say "good interview, Russell, nicely summarized the issues there".
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nzlemming, in reply to
Hmm, doesn't appear to be online. Bother.
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Rich Lock, in reply to
I knew gypsies caused cancer..
Well, according to Stephen King...
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Hmm, doesn’t appear to be online. Bother.
Ha! My TVNZ finding-fu is greater than yours!
The video is here.
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Sacha, in reply to
I'm saying the two things are not the same. the analogy works OK in some other ways.
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Civil offences? Sacha, what do you mean by a civil offence?
Also, many criminal matters have a corresponding civil issue --- even something as simple as assault. But I doubt you'd be happy using that logic to distinguish assault.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Ha! My TVNZ finding-fu is greater than yours
Ah, well that's because I was looking in today's clips. :-)
I echo Ben's comments
PS is that a big grey patch in your hair? :-p
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
drug crimes are not civil offenses. proven copyright violation is.
Depends on your perspective.
Treating drugs as a crime allows the likes of criminal gangs to profit from drugs, it’s not as if making something illegal stops criminals doing it in fact it is a prerequisite, even just possessing drugs makes you a criminal as does any form of prohibition to “cure a social ill”. Therefore drugs should be considered a civil offence and a health matter.
Copyright, on the other hand, is becoming, thanks to the Yanks, a criminal matter and, as such, will fall into the same vicious circle as drug law consequences.
It is simple, make something a crime and criminals will profit, make a popular thing a crime and the profits become enormous. -
nzlemming, in reply to
There is criminal copyright infringement as well as personal copyright infringement. As Graeme noted above, s131 of the Act.
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Internet piracy-accused Kim Dotcom has been remanded in custody.
He will be held in custody until February 22, when extradition papers are expected to be filed.
From Stuff
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Civil offences? Sacha, what do you mean by a civil offence?
In general, copyright infringement is primarily a civil offence, in that the owner can take civil legal action and, where appropriate, claim damages.
The threshold for treating it as a criminal offence varies considerably between jurisdictions.
Also, many criminal matters have a corresponding civil issue — even something as simple as assault. But I doubt you’d be happy using that logic to distinguish assault.
You've completely lost me there. I really don't think that's a good analogy at all.
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From the "Stuff" article...
In court this morning, Dotcom again appeared in black clothing, brought from Auckland's remand prison...
What a badly constructed sentence. I wonder how many of the illiterati will be rushing off to jail to buy black clothing?.
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BenWilson, in reply to
PS is that a big grey patch in your hair? :-p
LOL, I found myself staring at it too. I thought it was sunnies pushed back on the head, which struck me as being too posy even for TV. But no, it's a bit of a grey and a curious dent. Maybe a dent where the sunnies had been?
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
I thought it was sunnies pushed back on the head,
I thought it was... oh never mind.
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Civil offence is, uh, not a well defined concept. (In fact, as far as I can tell, it has three different meanings, none of which match how Sacha is using it, depending if you are the British Army, a parking warden, or the Canadian competition authorities.)
What I think Sacha wants to say is that because copyright is like a property right, copyright infringement can be dealt with civilly: the same as most property right infringement. But there's heaps of property right infringement that is dealt with criminally.
You’ve completely lost me there. I really don’t think that’s a good analogy at all.
No, I don't think it is either. It is because this `civil offence' thing is a messy ill-defined concept that doesn't clarify anything.
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NBR has the judge's written decision on Mr Dotcom's bail application, It's a top read!
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nzlemming, in reply to
It’s a top read!
Apparently we have porous "boarders". Who knew?
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Sacha, in reply to
In general, copyright infringement is primarily a civil offence, in that the owner can take civil legal action and, where appropriate, claim damages.
The threshold for treating it as a criminal offence varies considerably between jurisdictions.
That. I am not a lawyer.
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Sacha, in reply to
Absorbent surfers
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nzlemming, in reply to
NBR has the judge’s written decision on Mr Dotcom’s bail application
I suppose there's some deep hipster irony in the hottest story on the Internet being embedded in scanned images of a paper document. Oh well, at least those of us that can see have something to read...
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BenWilson, in reply to
Apparently we have porous "boarders". Who knew?
Everyone! The whole idea of the RWC was to wring as much as possible out of the foreigners. We showed the whole world that it actually is possible to wring your own neck.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
bought to justice?
I wonder how many of the illiterati will be
rushing off to jail to buy black clothing?a Gap in the prison wall?
I hear the manchester dept does good knotted sheets, too...Dissed lodgers...
Apparently we have porous “boarders”. Who knew?
Sponging off the State...
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Anyone else hearing rumours relating this to the launch of Megabox?
Teh interwebs is alive with speculation on the subject… (megabox.com seems to have vanished) -
nzlemming, in reply to
Interesting thought. But I think, like some of the TechCrunch commentators, that you don't put together an operation like this in 4-6 weeks. The amount of information detailed in the indictment speaks to a considerable period of surveillance and preparation, which the authorities say was 2 years. Like the SOPA/PIPA protests, I'd guess that this was coincidental and not linked to the raid.
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