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  • alobar, in reply to Sacha,

    so a business should only be prevented from continuing to offend if its a criminal matter ?

    auckland • Since Apr 2010 • 63 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    As the only person game enough to admit to ever watching Breakfast, I'll say "good interview, Russell, nicely summarized the issues there".

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to BenWilson,

    Hmm, doesn't appear to be online. Bother.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to Sacha,

    I knew gypsies caused cancer..

    Well, according to Stephen King...

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to nzlemming,

    Hmm, doesn’t appear to be online. Bother.

    Ha! My TVNZ finding-fu is greater than yours!

    The video is here.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to alobar,

    I'm saying the two things are not the same. the analogy works OK in some other ways.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    Civil offences? Sacha, what do you mean by a civil offence?

    Also, many criminal matters have a corresponding civil issue --- even something as simple as assault. But I doubt you'd be happy using that logic to distinguish assault.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Ha! My TVNZ finding-fu is greater than yours

    Ah, well that's because I was looking in today's clips. :-)

    I echo Ben's comments

    PS is that a big grey patch in your hair? :-p

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Sacha,

    drug crimes are not civil offenses. proven copyright violation is.

    Depends on your perspective.
    Treating drugs as a crime allows the likes of criminal gangs to profit from drugs, it’s not as if making something illegal stops criminals doing it in fact it is a prerequisite, even just possessing drugs makes you a criminal as does any form of prohibition to “cure a social ill”. Therefore drugs should be considered a civil offence and a health matter.
    Copyright, on the other hand, is becoming, thanks to the Yanks, a criminal matter and, as such, will fall into the same vicious circle as drug law consequences.
    It is simple, make something a crime and criminals will profit, make a popular thing a crime and the profits become enormous.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Sacha,

    There is criminal copyright infringement as well as personal copyright infringement. As Graeme noted above, s131 of the Act.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Internet piracy-accused Kim Dotcom has been remanded in custody.

    He will be held in custody until February 22, when extradition papers are expected to be filed.

    From Stuff

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Keir Leslie,

    Civil offences? Sacha, what do you mean by a civil offence?

    In general, copyright infringement is primarily a civil offence, in that the owner can take civil legal action and, where appropriate, claim damages.

    The threshold for treating it as a criminal offence varies considerably between jurisdictions.

    Also, many criminal matters have a corresponding civil issue — even something as simple as assault. But I doubt you’d be happy using that logic to distinguish assault.

    You've completely lost me there. I really don't think that's a good analogy at all.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    From the "Stuff" article...

    In court this morning, Dotcom again appeared in black clothing, brought from Auckland's remand prison...

    What a badly constructed sentence. I wonder how many of the illiterati will be rushing off to jail to buy black clothing?.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to nzlemming,

    PS is that a big grey patch in your hair? :-p

    LOL, I found myself staring at it too. I thought it was sunnies pushed back on the head, which struck me as being too posy even for TV. But no, it's a bit of a grey and a curious dent. Maybe a dent where the sunnies had been?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to BenWilson,

    I thought it was sunnies pushed back on the head,

    I thought it was... oh never mind.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Keir Leslie,

    Civil offence is, uh, not a well defined concept. (In fact, as far as I can tell, it has three different meanings, none of which match how Sacha is using it, depending if you are the British Army, a parking warden, or the Canadian competition authorities.)

    What I think Sacha wants to say is that because copyright is like a property right, copyright infringement can be dealt with civilly: the same as most property right infringement. But there's heaps of property right infringement that is dealt with criminally.

    You’ve completely lost me there. I really don’t think that’s a good analogy at all.

    No, I don't think it is either. It is because this `civil offence' thing is a messy ill-defined concept that doesn't clarify anything.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    NBR has the judge's written decision on Mr Dotcom's bail application, It's a top read!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    It’s a top read!

    Apparently we have porous "boarders". Who knew?

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    In general, copyright infringement is primarily a civil offence, in that the owner can take civil legal action and, where appropriate, claim damages.

    The threshold for treating it as a criminal offence varies considerably between jurisdictions.

    That. I am not a lawyer.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to nzlemming,

    Absorbent surfers

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    NBR has the judge’s written decision on Mr Dotcom’s bail application

    I suppose there's some deep hipster irony in the hottest story on the Internet being embedded in scanned images of a paper document. Oh well, at least those of us that can see have something to read...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to nzlemming,

    Apparently we have porous "boarders". Who knew?

    Everyone! The whole idea of the RWC was to wring as much as possible out of the foreigners. We showed the whole world that it actually is possible to wring your own neck.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    bought to justice?

    I wonder how many of the illiterati will be
    rushing off to jail to buy black clothing?

    a Gap in the prison wall?
    I hear the manchester dept does good knotted sheets, too...

    Dissed lodgers...

    Apparently we have porous “boarders”. Who knew?

    Sponging off the State...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    Anyone else hearing rumours relating this to the launch of Megabox?
    Teh interwebs is alive with speculation on the subject… (megabox.com seems to have vanished)

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2110 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Interesting thought. But I think, like some of the TechCrunch commentators, that you don't put together an operation like this in 4-6 weeks. The amount of information detailed in the indictment speaks to a considerable period of surveillance and preparation, which the authorities say was 2 years. Like the SOPA/PIPA protests, I'd guess that this was coincidental and not linked to the raid.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2937 posts Report Reply

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