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Hard News: The March for Democracy

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  • Danielle,

    Season four of The Wire: pinnacle of human civilisation.

    Yet it will rip your heart into shreds, Sam. Seriously: be prepared to lie awake at night worrying about the fates of fictional characters.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    Seriously: be prepared to lie awake at night worrying about the fates of fictional characters.

    Sheeeeit. I'm concerned enough for Bubbles' and Cutty's health as it stands.

    As for Sensible Sentencing: good news. If they want to keep the tax-free status they now have a chance to commit to doing more of the work they were supposedly founded to do - not just paying McVicar to mouth off when he'd probably do it in the street for free anyway.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Off topic, but *highfive*! About three episodes from the end of Season Three as we speak. Can't wait to see how Hamsterdam falls to bits...

    Well...;) it's a goody init

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • John Fouhy,

    [The SST] do[es] precious little support work that anyone sees, but plenty of political advocacy.

    You can have a look at their goals. Lots of stuff about changing legislation. Nothing involving providing help or support for actual victims of crime.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 87 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    You can have a look at their goals. Lots of stuff about changing legislation. Nothing involving providing help or support for actual victims of crime.

    In other words, teabagging.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    In other words, teabagging.

    On that note, when did Winston Peters become leader of the Labour Party?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Andre Alessi,

    On that note, could someone tell Phil Goff that dog-whsitling racist populism at Grey Power meetings doesn't even work for Winston Peters any more?

    Since when has telling a politician that something doesn't work been effective at stopping them from doing it anyway?

    Besides, Phil appears to be on the political equivalent of a visionquest, hoping to prove his manhood and independence from his elders by locking himself in small smoky spaces and attempting to induce prophecy-laden hallucinations. Just wait till he gets to the bit about the pink elephants who want New Zealand to take up compulsory military service.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    On that note, when did Winston Peters become leader of the Labour Party?

    Sometime after late 2005, by my reckoning.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    At a cost of £8.5 million, Nexus have installed the UK’s largest and most complex digital
    colour CCTV system which provides continuous monitoring and recording at Metro and
    bus stations all day and every day.

    Ref


    SORRY! Wrong thread

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Sometime after late 2005, by my reckoning.

    I can imagine the sound of energetic tooth grinding emanating from Margaret Wilson's office at Waikato University... But seriously, I don't believe Phil Goff is any more a racist than Don Brash is, and (like Brash) he raises some legitimate issues. But that's wrapped up in some pretty ugly code, and if Goff doesn't understand exactly what buttons he's pushing, he's no worse than a fool. If he does, he's worse than a bigot -- he's a decent man who will cynically pander to them for a poll point.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    Goff does a Brash and plays the race card

    Sigh...

    (I'd say more, but it would be unprintable)

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    OTOH, Scoop says it all with their headline:

    "Race Relations: Goff Gives Speech To --Orewa Rotary Club-- Grey Power Palmerston North"

    Ouch. But oh, so accurate. (And yes, on PN we do gay bashings and racism...)

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • philipmatthews,

    he's a decent man who will cynically pander to them for a poll point.

    Got it in one. Eg:

    We can choose our future based on principle and with the interests of all New Zealanders at heart.

    Or we can have a country where one New Zealander is turned against another, Maori against Pakeha, in a way that Labour strongly rejects.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Another thought, Goff might want to pick a mouthpiece to go off about "the iwi elites" with a slightly more slightly more (street) credible resume than Shane Jones. Eventually, someone's going to point out that Jones has spent his entire adult life sitting at the political/corporate 'Brown Table' -- and if he didn't have exactly those networks his stock would be a damn sight lower in Labour than it is.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    he's a decent man who will cynically pander to them for a poll point.

    That's a contradiction in terms. People who pander to bigots aren't decent in any sense of the word.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • dubmugga,

    Another thought, Goff might want to pick a mouthpiece to go off about "the iwi elites" with a slightly more slightly more (street) credible resume than Shane Jones. Eventually, someone's going to point out that Jones has spent his entire adult life sitting at the political/corporate 'Brown Table' -- and if he didn't have exactly those networks his stock would be a damn sight lower in Labour than it is.

    haha...this^^

    ...now i aint sayin he a house nigga but he aint messin with no broke wiggas

    the back of your mind • Since Nov 2006 • 257 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    Meanwhile, I am now waiting for those who condemned Brash in 2004 to support Goff, while those who supported Brash condemn him...

    Or, maybe some people will show some consistency for once. I would like to be surprised, I really would.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Meanwhile, I am now waiting for those who condemned Brash in 2004 to support Goff, while those who supported Brash condemn him...

    Or, maybe some people will show some consistency for once. I would like to be surprised, I really would.

    Should I be blushing, or was that a general observation? But I guess we should be encouraged that even The Standard can't quite bring itself to deep throat Phil's teabag, instead choosing to totally ignore it for an orgy of Maori Party-related invective.

    That's a contradiction in terms. People who pander to bigots aren't decent in any sense of the word.

    OK, should have slipped in an 'otherwise' there. I'm sure many would beg to differ, but I don't want to grab a garlic marinaded crucifix at the sight of the man. I just tend to cringe when he gets his populist machismo on, because the results are never pretty.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Can someone explain to me why this is considered racist?

    I reject strongly the allegation the Prime Minister made that anyone who has concerns about this deal is playing the race card.
    Race is a red herring in this deal. It’s about subsidies for big corporations, and I am not going to shy away from saying so.

    Seems the opposite to me

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Can someone explain to me why this is considered racist?

    Because I've read the whole speech, and that's so much bullshit I'm tempted to spray it over the roses. Believe it or not, coming out and telling your audience you're dog-whistling somewhat defeats the whole purpose of the exercise.

    Still, I'll give him props if he's got the balls to give encore performances at Turangawaewae or Christchurch with those evil corporate overlords in the room, and with a full right of reply.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Because I've read the whole speech,

    As have I. I also noticed that Goff didn't mention the Holocaust, I guess that makes him a denier.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    Should I be blushing, or was that a general observation?

    A general observation.

    But I guess we should be encouraged that even The Standard can't quite bring itself to deep throat Phil's teabag

    I waiting for it. meanwhile, I'm expecting the sewer to denounce Goff in exactly the same terms he used todenounce Brash in 2004

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    Can someone explain to me why this is considered racist?

    And that's why its called dogwhistling.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1717 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    As have I. I also noticed that Goff didn't mention the Holocaust, I guess that makes him a denier.

    Steve not even going there, but just because you open with "I've got nothing against gays/Maoris/women/immigrants etc.", it doesn't immunise you from a bullshit bingo call when you've just explained at considerable length that you have quite a bit against gays/Maoris/women/immigrant etc. Or, more precisely, are perfectly happy to use 'em as an offensive political weapon.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Ward,

    Steve, because he made that comment in the same speech as:

    Or we can have a country where one New Zealander is turned against another, Maori against Pakeha, in a way that Labour strongly rejects.

    and then made a bunch of references to the Foreshore & Seabed.

    If he wanted to keep it about corporate buyout of the ETS (as he damn well should have) then he could have done it without those bits wrapped around it. Normally hate the "dogwhistle" term but this just seems so blatant

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1727 posts Report Reply

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