Hard News: The Hager saga continues
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
Wealth means the ability to buy an electorate.
Then again, it didn't quite work for Kim and Colin.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Then again, it didn’t quite work for Kim and Colin.
It only works if you're not up-front about it. Gibbs has been buying Epsom's vote since forever.
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
It only works if you’re not up-front about it. Gibbs has been buying Epsom’s vote since forever.
Maybe Gibbs isn’t upfront about it, but when Boag & Hooton were tearing strips off one another not so long ago they paused to enthusiastically hi-five each other over what a splendid wheeze the Epsom rort would once again prove to be.
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Do tell me more about the homogenous nature of your space.
Well I wasn't the one saying that non-Labour people shouldn't be having their say on the Labour party, so perhaps you confused me for... you.
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I hear that John Roughan has made amendments to the biography of John Key, and it is quoted now, and has been confirmed by Key to the media, that he thinks he knows who the hacker "Rawshark" is. This is astonishing. If Key does indeed know, or thinks he knows who hacked his blogger mate's computer, why is he not informing the police?
This raises questions, same as why the media do not press him for more of an answer.
Could it be, that Key does not really want Rawshark to be exposed? Normally one would presume that Key would be one of the first rushing to tell the police who he suspects to have hacked Slater's computer, but why is he not doing so?
The only logical explanation seems to be, that Key is afraid of some truths to be revealed about his own involvement in "Dirty Politics", as described so well by Nicky Hager. The hacker only released some emails and related information, after the book came out, and he released even less to Hager. But it is reasonable to assume that he has much more information, that may to some degree involve Key, or at least more so people working directly under him.
I suspect that Key does not want the hacker to be put before a court, as that will likely ruin the Prime Ministers "career" rather soon, as all the dirty laundry would be aired in public, and it would finally come out to haunt Mr Key.
The media seems hesitant to get the truth to come out, because some of their main players themselves had more or less regular contacts with Cameron Slater from Whaleoil, so some information may implicate some of them, and hence they also rather see it all swept under the carpet.
Do not worry or hope that the police will "raid" John Key's house any time soon, few judges will dare issuing a warrant for this to be done, I think, and certainly the police will think more than twice, before asking for a search warrant. And as Key is the top man in charge of the security services, well now cushioned by Mr Finlayson, I doubt that his own underlings will dare surveilling his communications any time soon.
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Key's line now is that 'like most New Zillunders' he has moved on. Nothing to see here.
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Jack Harrison, in reply to
He needs to get training to say "New Zealanders" correctly.
If he was in a high school today he would be corrected by his English teachers. It's an English word and a Dutch word with a plural. "New Zealanders." I believe he is letting down our national standards and young childrens speech will be corrupted. I am a conservative on this.
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Sacha, in reply to
how do you feel about flags? :)
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Jack Harrison, in reply to
Fuck the flag. It's a distraction. We need debates about other issues more. The flag is not a priority, it's a distraction. That's the truth.
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Sacha, in reply to
verily
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WH, in reply to
Well I wasn't the one saying that non-Labour people shouldn't be having their say on the Labour party, so perhaps you confused me for... you.
My point was that Labour's principles aren't owned by those who support parties to Labour's left. Your point was that Labour supporters shouldn't be using Public Address to talk about Labour at all.
You'll have noticed that I tried to end this conversation a week ago. I don't think your latest comment fairly reflects what was discussed and I'd be grateful if you'd spare me any further attempts at staircase wit.
Thanks in advance.
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The flag is now a rag...
Thank you JK. You have denigrated anyone who stood behind it.
If John Key wants to have a new flag then may I suggest he goes for the Stars and Stripes and goes to live in the country that has that flag already. -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
The flag is now a rag…
Fluttering, flagging, fading fast...
John Key always likes a good people's pole, er poll...
Give him enough rope and anything'll fly.Funny how all his favourites look like fly swats, though...
...with fronds like this who needs enemies? -
My point was that Labour’s principles aren’t owned by those who support parties to Labour’s left. Your point was that Labour supporters shouldn’t be using Public Address to talk about Labour at all.
Again, I think you've confused me for someone else. Not something I've said on this thread, or something I think at all.
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Bart Janssen, in reply to
how do you feel about flags? :)
Maybe the new flag should have a kitten on it ...
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Alfie, in reply to
...with fronds like this who needs enemies?
Love it Ian. ;-)
If I can get away from the 'Labour principles' spat (sorry guys, it's getting boring) and move the conversation back to the Hager saga, Andrew Geddis looks at various mysteries which John Key somehow has knowledge of. It's worth a read.
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Steve Barnes, in reply to
Maybe the new flag should have a kitten on it ...
Or maybe a cartoon Kiwi........ Hello Kiwi.
The merchandising could be phenomenal. Bags, lunchboxes, colouring books, pencil cases.....
The list could be endless. -
Or perhaps a compromise...
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
The flag is now a rag…
Thank you JK. You have denigrated anyone who stood behind it.
If John Key wants to have a new flag then may I suggest he goes for the Stars and Stripes and goes to live in the country that has that flag already.I'm tempted to suggest the Anarcho-Capitalist flag. But in practice, what we have is more like corporate welfare and crony capitalism, and there isn't an obvious symbol for that.
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Sacha, in reply to
would win the internet
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A white flag with black writing
“0800 Nu Zilund. Have we got some deals for you.”
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David Slack has the end of this saga - Hager's obituary circa 2052.
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The saga of politics never ends. The reason 99% of people talk on this amazing webpage is because we want 2052 to rock. 2052 , it better be good.
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Sacha, in reply to
testify
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
A white flag with black writing...
...five blue figures on a white circle?
perhaps we can arrange something...
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