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  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    We think we were the first to fly
    And we're stuck with P to get us high
    We must always blow on the piiiiiiiiiiie...
    Hamilton has Geoff Lea-ea-land

    We are liking this one :)
    @P Litterick
    Can you email me? I have a plan.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Litterick,

    Sofie I have emailed you, to the address on your PAS profile. If this is not the right address, you can email me on fundypost@gmail.com.

    Carry on, the rest of you.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1000 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart,

    "From dissension*, envy, hate
    Ladies, please bring a plate"

    Men a bottle, don't be late!
    This arvo in our free-ee land!

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Heather W.,

    Speights beer (since 1876) has a three star logo. The first official performance of the anthem was in Dunedin Christmas 1876.

    (There was an article in the North Shore Times on December 10 about Thomas Bracken and the anthem).

    The three stars are usually the three islands of North Island, South Island and Stewart Island (not Waiheke).

    North Shore • Since Nov 2008 • 189 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    Or if you're James Cook Banks peninsula ....

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart,

    Or if you're James Cook Banks peninsula ....

    I for one think we should return to the traditional values that made this country great and abandon this "Banks Peninsula" nonsense. The discoverer of our nation said it's an island, and that's good enough for me!

    (Other options include: Somes Island, Kapiti Island, the West Island...)

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Paul Campbell - ur no- the peninsula was the Island and the island (Rakiura) was the peninsula-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    Islander - that was kind of my point - he would have declared The North, The South and Banks as our 'triple star'

    Now that speights has been bought by Japan perhaps we can give the triple star to Emersons ....

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    the West Island

    That one will be forever reserved for the con..um...liberation of Australia.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    I for one think we should return to the traditional values that made this country great and abandon this "Banks Peninsula" nonsense. The discoverer of our nation said it's an island, and that's good enough for me!

    a little global warming, a few melted ice sheets and it may well turn out he was right .....

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart,

    a little global warming, a few meted ice sheets and it may well turn out he was right .....

    He was also right a few million years ago. When I said traditional, I meant really traditional.

    That one will be forever reserved for the con..um...liberation of Australia.

    I see no reason not to use it in advance...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    we're putting off the con...lib...thingy - turns out if we do it we'll be responsible for them and have to give them all our water ....

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2622 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Also - feet in jandals dont stink.

    A sorry purveyor of reality, not nostalgia or mysticism.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • pollywog,

    A sorry purveyor of reality, not nostalgia or mysticism.

    jeez...what sorta maori are you ?

    somewhere else • Since Dec 2009 • 152 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    kinda crap Kai Tahu one? Like, o shit, realistic?

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • pollywog,

    kinda crap Kai Tahu one

    werd homeslice:)

    somewhere else • Since Dec 2009 • 152 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    wanna know crap in Kai Tahuese?

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • pollywog,

    nah thanks... my oldest 3 kids are fluent in maori cos i put em all thru kohanga and kura kaupapa since day one but mainstreamed them for their senoir years cos the teaching standards weren't up to scratch at wharekura level.

    somewhere else • Since Dec 2009 • 152 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    ur, missed point, missed goal, missed game I think-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    I've heard it said that the triple star has multipul meanings.

    Three Islands
    Three Stars
    Three Kite of Knowledge

    http://www.knowledge-basket.co.nz/kete/about/baskets.html

    But of course meaning is in the eye of the beer holder.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Dear Just thinkiing- you can guarentee that there wqs *never* a triple star in any way of maori esoteric thought ( we actually used to think in 7s.)

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Likening dawn raids to pogroms I find more than a little distasteful.

    Especially when they were quite dreadful enough without the seasoning of rhetorical theatre...

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart,

    Dear Just thinkiing- you can guarentee that there wqs *never* a triple star in any way of maori esoteric thought ( we actually used to think in 7s.)

    Nothing crept in during the 19th century from Christianity (Holy Trinity etc.)?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Mr Mark,

    Woo Hooooo !!! (as Homer Simpson once said), my FIRST EVER Hardnews post. My God, it feels fan-BLOODY-tastic !!!

    And as a newbie (the Hard News equivalent of a small, naive, glossy-eyed baby arctic fur seal), I'll sincerely try to be appropriately deferential to the site's old-timers (doff my cap every now and then).

    My reaction to 2 comments:

    (JUST THINKING):"...in OZ I've never come across the routine racism I see often in Christchurch."
    Yeah, you often hear that about Chch. But I wonder if the city simply has a more active and visible - rather than larger - Far Right ? Some research I've been doing recently suggests that the people of Chch - at least in the late 1970s/early 1980s - tended, in fact, to be more progressive on racial issues (attitudes to Maori, 1981 Springbok Tour) than people in other New Zealand cities and towns.

    (GIOVANNI TISO):"Milan is the centre of Berlusconi's empire...that's where the hardcore of his electoral support resides."
    Ahhhh, but have you any evidence to back that up, Giovanni ? I mean, yeah of course his ownership of AC Milan (I'm an Inter fan, myself :-) ) and his early background in the city, but I'm not so sure you can call Milan a real stronghold for either (1) Berlusconi's People of Liberty party (POL) or (2) his broader Right-wing Coalition bloc as a whole.

    A whole swathe of northern Italy - especially the smaller, wealthy cities in Lombardy, the Veneto and, to a lesser extent, Piedmont - gave the Berlusconi Right coalition more support (close to or more than 60%) than Milan (around 52%) in 2008. The coalition also took more than 60% in large parts of staunchly conservative/Catholic Sicily and in the Latina province (southern hinterland of Rome).

    And in terms of Berlusconi's own party, both Milan and indeed the whole of Lombardy actually gave the POL BELOW average support at the last election (33% compared to 37% nationally). The real hardcore of Berlusconi/POL sentiment is in the south - Sicily (47%), Campania (49%), Puglia (46%). They also do quite well in parts of Rome and its hinterland (Lazio region (1) 41%, Lazio region (2) 49%).

    Wellington • Since Dec 2009 • 128 posts Report Reply

  • philipmatthews,

    (JUST THINKING):"...in OZ I've never come across the routine racism I see often in Christchurch."
    Yeah, you often hear that about Chch. But I wonder if the city simply has a more active and visible - rather than larger - Far Right ? Some research I've been doing recently suggests that the people of Chch - at least in the late 1970s/early 1980s - tended, in fact, to be more progressive on racial issues (attitudes to Maori, 1981 Springbok Tour) than people in other New Zealand cities and towns.

    Indeed. I think it's in Tom Newnham's book Of Batons and Barbed Wire, which appeared soon after the 81 tour, that you see that two-thirds of Chch residents opposed the tour. There were huge mobilisations here. On May 1, you had marches coming from Merivale in the north, Riccarton in the west, Sydenham in the south and Lancaster Park in the east meeting in the Square -- thousands and thousands of people involved. And then the street battles around the first test here (brilliantly described by Geoff Chapple in 1981: The Tour, which deserves to be back in print). Given all that opposition, you might wonder how one John Key of Bryndwyr, a Canterbury University student that year, didn't manage to form an opinion he could remember 25 years later.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report Reply

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