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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Greg Dawson, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    I have great conversations with homeless living in cars and campervans that know what our PM is like and express it’s wrong they cant get a benefit without a postal address and don’t vote.

    I've asked the EEC what their position is on getting the homeless enrolled - if it's just getting a postal address (they have published options to get around unnumbered addresses for actual residence) that is the problem, there are options. Even if it's as basic as counter delivery or using the address of somewhere they are known.

    It's just plain wrong for anyone to be disenfranchised by process - it's bad enough when they're disenfranchised by law (hi prisoners!).

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 294 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to izogi,

    Is it naive on my part to have an impression that NZ’s public service is actually pretty good, and it’s the political branch which is most susceptible to dodgy practices and conflicts of interest when handling accountability?

    My experiences with the NZ public service are over a decade old, however generally they were good. Individuals were clear about their authorising environment, they acted reasonably with stakeholders, they were open to new approaches and were mostly interested in data/evaluation. Largely, the same is true in Australia. One of key differences, in my experience, is that the Australian public sector is a little more pragmatic and less inclined to closely follow policy 'scripts'.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to John Farrell,

    John Ansell gets involved.

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/08/31/exclusive-deja-vu-all-over-again-john-ansell-confirms-his-participation-in-anti-greens-billboard-campaign/

    Ansell's just desperate for attention. It must be very distressing for him to not be a major part of this drama.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Greg Dawson,

    Thanks for that. I swing by them on Wednesday, I'll pass that on.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    After an unattractive period of gloating, I'm finding the depth and scale of this mess dispiriting. National deserve to be thrown out of office. If they're not, we'll all struggle to regain our balance, our sense of who we are.
    And we'll be in for 3 years of horrible partisan scrabble.
    But deep down I want National to lose because they've lost the battle of ideas. Instead they seem destined to go down in a muddy clusterf&ck of selfishness and meanness. Inquiries and commissions won't take away the sour taste, the sad waste.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2109 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    And we’ll be in for 3 years of horrible partisan scrabble.

    Indeed. The last federal Labor Government in Australia was largely coherent with this description... actually the current federal Lib/National coalition is too...

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Paul Williams,

    actually the current federal Lib/National coalition is too…

    I think you have a "de" in that word that is spoiling the meaning...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2933 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to nzlemming,

    Both are true. Fortunately, they might be a one term event such is their incompetence... so we can have the slightly less useless Labor party back... actually, there's a number of highly competent members in federal Labor, Penny Wong and Tanya Plibersek being two of the standouts.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    A while back I was concerned that if National were to win a third term many people would suspect that the election was somehow rigged. In light of recent events I believe any doubt would now be unlikely.

    Weirdly enough, the last time I heard this tune was in 2005 after Labour narrowly secured a third term. Was the Don Brash impersonation intentional, Steve?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    I see that APN is being publicly listed...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7944 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Ah Craig, blue to the core….

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Greg Dawson,

    I think we can put aside any suggestions of impropriety in the electoral systems until we have, you know, even an inkling that they're in any way compromised.

    Which we don't, and we have lots and lots of other mischief to talk about.

    Nothing to do with being blue.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 294 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Ah Craig, blue to the core….

    I wouldn't wish that blokily homoerotic dirge on anyone. Especially as it was specifically written as hold music for the odious John Singleton's ad agency.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Was the Don Brash impersonation intentional, Steve?

    More Samuel Clemens akshully...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    specifically written as hold music for the odious John Singleton’s ad agency.

    Wonderful, if true. A man of Talent 2
    Having done some quick reading up on the guy I think he is one of the lesser odious, a sub group of the same species that includes the Murdoch.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    More Samuel Clemens akshully…

    Twain Peaks?

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7944 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    I wouldn’t wish that blokily homoerotic dirge on anyone.

    Much as I find Australia, as a society, relatively repugnant*, I actually quite like that song. It is about “Mateship” the whole “standing by your mate” thing doesn’t strike me as homoerotic, some of my best mates are women and I value friendship above all else and I do like a good singalong. ;-)

    * Mainly for the inherent racism, it’s bad enough when you treat the indigenous people worse than animals but to compound that with the White Australia policy should make one ashamed to be called an Australian.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Twain Peaks?

    Indeed. The quote I was building from was...
    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
    Or "It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt."
    Attributed to both Mark Twain and Abraham Lincoln, the fact of the matter is that both quotes are corruptions of a Biblical passage...
    "Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding." Proverbs 17:28.

    The only memorable quote I recall from Don Brash is "Gone by lunchtime"
    Oh the Irony... it burns...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Having done some quick reading up on the guy I think he is one of the lesser odious, a sub group of the same species that includes the Murdoch.

    Singo, as he's affectionately known, and the likes of Alan Jones are the most unappealing face of Australian intolerance (and why Paul Henry didn't last over here, he's not nearly offensive enough to foot it with their like).

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Paul Williams,

    Singo, as he’s affectionately known, and the likes of Alan Jones are the most unappealing face of Australian intolerance

    I beg to differ, there are far worse in the common populace, especially in Queensland and points north. I really should stop right here as, I am sure many will tell me, there are good people too. Stereotypical tar brushing will always lead to generalisation and in doing so will offend many, so....
    I shutupnow...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    I beg to differ, there are far worse in the common populace, especially in Queensland and points north.

    You could well be right, despite living in Australia for 12 years, in reality, I live in a bubble - the inner west of Sydney - which is exceptionally liberal by comparison with the rest of the nation.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    Once again Winston is able to take advantage of events to raise his profile and attractiveness to voters http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10450053/Peters-bottom-line
    We need the inquiry he's demanding.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Paul Williams,

    I live in a bubble –

    You really should get out more. ;-)
    Australia is a stunning country that is, as Bill Bryson put it, “Fucking Huge”. You could spend several lifetimes and discover only a fraction.
    Uluru (Ayers Rock for rockheads) has an aura that evokes feelings you will never recognise as your own and that’s just a pebble in the middle.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Steve, agreed. I've seen a lot, although as you say, it's huge so there's plenty of gaps (not north of Perth or to Uluru, yet).

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Moz, in reply to Paul Williams,

    despite living in Australia for 12 years, in reality, I live in a bubble - the inner west of Sydney - which is exceptionally liberal by comparison with the rest of the nation.

    I suspect being white and male also helped you. Even in Marrickville and Newtown my partner cops frequent abuse for being female or asian. The contest to be the most odious arsehole in Australia is vigorous and has many participants.

    Sydney, West Island • Since Nov 2006 • 1232 posts Report Reply

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