Hard News: About Chris Brown
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Danielle, in reply to
Twitter is killing this place.
I think Twitter is great for this place because it allows people to a) form their thoughts before they're posted here (which is what I do quite a lot of the time) and b) removes a lot of noise that might be kind of unhelpful at PAS (if I become annoyed with something I can tweet about it and then come back here to be more polite, having cleansed it from my system).
Kumara Republic, in reply to
Twitter is killing this place.
Not so sure about that. What I can express on Twitter, I can express here in an expanded format.
Rich Lock, in reply to
Sometimes that violence might be fantasy or catharsis.
Was chatting to someone about this the other night . Vigilante and revenge fantasies are popular across culture's entire spectrum, pop or not. Hamlet, Titus Andronicus, The Punisher, Batman, Dirty Harry, the entire premise of 'Life on Mars'.....
Craig Young, in reply to
Unlike Maori Party co-leader Marama Fox: https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/kiwis-don-t-need-chris-brown-to-show-them-how-transform-their-lives-maori-party-co-leader-q13780?autoPlay=4529626394001
philipmatthews, in reply to
Yeah, it is. And you come up against absolutes very quickly.
I was thinking yesterday that one of the problems with Twitter is that it forces you to take sides when you really want to be in the grey area in the middle.
izogi, in reply to
Ms Fox's opinion is at odds with former Green Party co-leader Dame Tariana Turia
As this affair descends slowly into farce, pseudo-bishop Brian Tamaki naturally supports Brown’s visit. Maori performer Mika agrees and sees this primarily as a race issue.
Let’s face it, if he wasn’t black he probably would have been let in because there’s been a lot of white people – celebrities – who have been let into New Zealand in the last few years with crimes a lot worse than this. Chris Brown, we want you to come to New Zealand.
Tamaki released a video message after being asked how he felt about the "Chris Brown saga" and about his "previous abuse - violence, so-called".
He said people needed to have patience to accept others even though they had made "mistakes even if it comes to physical violence".
If Brown was granted a visa to come to New Zealand, Tamaki wanted him to attend the church's Map Up programme which helped those with alcohol, drugs and violence issues.
The church said it would write a letter of support to accompany Brown's application to Immigration New Zealand.
In the same story, Mika:
Mika issued a video support message, pointing to his Mika Haka Foundation and saying it worked with predominantly "young brown people" who had been convicted of crimes.
"Let's face it, if he wasn't black he probably would have been let in because there's been a lot of white people - celebrities - who have been let into New Zealand in the last few years with crimes a lot worse than this. Chris Brown, we want you to come to New Zealand.
"I am supporting the tour of Chris Brown because I know what he's doing now - or what he is trying to - repair and change his life if a great thing for young brown men. If we want to stop crime ... want to stop domestic abuse, we need role models like Chris because young brown guys listen to Chris Brown."
Where are all these white celebrities who've been let in recently after crimes "a lot worse" than Chris Brown's? Names, please?
This is just witless people being persuaded by Jevan Goulter.
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Ms Fox’s opinion is at odds with former Green Party co-leader Dame Tariana Turia
I blame Avatar
people are now colour blind it seems
- blue/green/brown/beige/blanco -
with short attention spans...
Sacha, in reply to
I know what he's doing now
Oh really, Mika? Do share.
Craig Ranapia, in reply to
If we want to stop crime … want to stop domestic abuse, we need role models like Chris because young brown guys listen to Chris Brown.”
Bitch, please. In other news, the latest round of the Serco Follies involved the alleged serial rape of a trans woman who should never have been in a male prison in the first place. So please excuse me if I think the last thing anyone in this country needs as a role model is someone who threatened to kill a "faggot" over a parking space. Ever. I'm glad that Mika would be cool being around that kind of person, but I sure as fuck don't. There's no reason already vulnerable Maori/Pasifika LGBT youth should be expected to take his reformation on faith.
An award-winning Auckland architect will not be convicted after his wife broke her arm when he pulled her from a wheelchair.
....but he escaped any black mark against his name partly because of the "extraordinary and very sad" circumstances of the case.
On March 10, the defendant yanked her, causing her to fall from her wheelchair and break her arm.
"He held her by her arm and pulled her forward and she fell out of her wheelchair," Judge Grant Fraser said.
"We're not talking about him striking her or an attack to the head, we're talking about an action in frustration which might almost be accidental.
The judge said the consequences of Paterson's actions were serious but the incredible stress he was under with his wife's health concerns, all while raising two young sons, provided an explanation to what occurred.
He said a forensic psychologist's report before the court made for "harrowing" reading.
His lawyer Robert Collis said Paterson's standing in the architectural community would receive a severe blow if he was convicted and it would also restrict his chance to travel for work.
Police told the court Paterson had no previous convictions and the judge ruled it would be unfair to mark his clean criminal record.
He should have been convicted.
I personally find the narrative that the stress of having a disabled wife, two young sons and a reputation to maintain excuses this repugnant.
It makes an interesting study of 'framing' , this particular article doesn't it?
"...his wife broke her arm when he pulled her from a wheelchair."
Rosemary McDonald, in reply to
here's the link to the above article...http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11524814
Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to
So there is 2 Pat(t)ersons, Architects in 2 days before the Courts.The extra "t" pleaded guilty Just to save confusion and
Defence lawyer Michael Lloyd initially asked for an adjournment so he could enlist the services of an expert to review the police's evidence and entered a not guilty plea on behalf of his client.
running someone over is an accident, not the same, but a " not guilty " suggests to me ,he thought about shirking responsibility. I know it's expected from the Lawyer but still...
Do we need another piece of legislation to make these assaults that Judges find a bit harsh judging on to at least acknowledge it was assault? The fine line this judging is taking seems to favour a good Lawyer and prominent person over the rest .
This guy, seems to be another one
Rosemary McDonald, in reply to
Do we need another piece of legislation to make these assaults that Judges find a bit harsh judging on to at least acknowledge it was assault?
and another one...http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11544421
Musician avoids assault...gets permanent name suppression...
The incident happened at a work Christmas party when the man's then partner began arguing with a third party.
"We had both been drinking and I reacted badly and handled her the wrong way which caused her to fall and hit her head on the gate," he said.
Though there were some denials about kicking the woman in the side as she lay on the ground, Judge Fraser stressed he had accepted the summary of facts in its entirety with his guilty plea.
The name of his band and his ex-partner were also suppressed.
The defendant previously told the court his band had recently got their big break with a European label agreeing to release their album.
"To get an opportunity like this outside New Zealand is a pretty big deal," he said.
"It's what I've been working for my whole life."
After extensive enquiries by the judge, the man described the band's sound as "very bluesy, early 70's inspired, psychedelic rock".
chris, in reply to
the sum total of his punishment was a $130 court-costs bill.[…]Judge Grant Fraser accepted a conviction or any negative publicity might jeopardise the record deal.
Must be a meagre deal. We face stiffer penalties for going 21km/h over the speed limit.
Russell Brown, in reply to
Must be a meagre deal.
Tiny, I would wager. No one I know can think who it is. It feels like something they sold the judge.
In recent news - this story is back -
He has recently had problems getting visas in England and Australia.
Chris Brown has lost his appeal and been been banned from Australia. As NZ automatically excludes those banned from another country, it looks like he won't be landing on our shores any time soon.
It would have been preferable if NZ had stood up to the plate, rather than sitting on our hands and waiting to see what the aussies would do.
After watching this... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/gossip/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501135&objectid=11523987 (I only watched it just now)
Let him come, I say, and he can hob nob with the Bishop wherever that footage was filmed....on the edge of the fiery pit.
Good god...what was that in the background?
Sacha, in reply to
to be fair, he took his sweet time applying here.
It's official... promoter confrims (sic) Chris Brown concert is dead.
Proving that leopards rarely change their spots, Chris Brown has been accused of punching another woman.
I wonder if Goulter has apologised to the kuia he misled about the fisty singer's character and actions?
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