I wonder if the graphic might be useful.
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Some good news tucked away about ozone levels dropping :)
This here, what happened yesterday, is why we chose MMP, more than once. It’s politics of consensus, it’s lots of talk and a lot less arbitrary power and arrogance.
I like it. I heard an interview this morning on Radio NZ. Note:
It was Annette King
Someone asked about Winston and the Bolger government. That didn’t collapse till Shipley took power in a coup. Apparently she had been undermining Peters previously and that is what happened. People don’t remember the full context.
I am not a fan of Peters but he has been around since the 70’s and he clearly has some skills in the back room. I’m happy the Greens have a seat at the table this time even if it is slightly removed. That is just the way the votes came out.
If the Greens had 9 seats the NZF had 8 I doubt a deal could have been done so this is great.
Bill English has made history it being the second time he has inherited a prime ministership only to lose it all.
We need some vision and leadership and going with a new government is much smarter than retreading the same old team for a fourth term.
I’m hoping National might even be a half way decent opposition. There are plenty of ( now ex) cabinet ministers that needed to wake up.
Thanks Russell. I had seen photos before but the stone wall made me think it was at Greenlane.
I suspect if there wasn't a threshold more parties would be formed, and therefore more parties represented in parliament.
I agree. Removal of the threshold would change voter behaviour. One recommendation back in 2012 was to drop from 5% to 4% - maybe that is part of the answer. Not complete removal but a different %
Where is that first photo (rainbow one) taken please. A street address.
So what happened to the recommendations from the 2012 Review of MMP. As I recall nothing was changed even there were at least 6 recommendations that would have helped a fairer system.
So back in 2012 there was a referendum on MMP. Dropping the target % from 5% down to 4% was one of the recommendations. Getting rid of the overhang etc. was also in there.
From memory none of the recommendations were adopted. Is that the case and if the proposed rule changes diminish the two big parties share then none of the MMP rules will change just like the reallocation.
We lament people not voting, yet we effectively flush 5 MP’s worth of votes!
But then we add that back into the calculation. I'm not clear whether this is before or after the special votes have been counted though?
"the parties not reaching the threshold have been disregarded the percentage share for each of the remaining parties has increased."
Why the fascination with electorates?
I think it is a relic of the past. I was thinking besides the 15% of special votes there is the 4% of wasted votes that go back into the pool for seat recalculation. I'm sure that is included in the calculations but easy to overlook.
I was just out in New Lynn. Deborah Russell got that but many first gen voters didn't vote for her while they liked Cunliffe. So yes electorate representation is still a thing. I'm in Mt Albert so I split my vote and if I had been in Maungakiekie or another electorate with a Labour electorate potential winner I would have done that.