Posts by Shep Cheyenne
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Rich - I followed the statement with the one fact we can all agree on. We don't know it all - the only absolute fact we really know.
I don't dispute scientific rigour, but would like it to share the space a bit with other ways ok knowing.
My fave was the Taniwha in the Waikato & Transit building around the Taniwha, it's wetland habitat, and the safer curved road that followed.
The different way of knowing was supported by that soft science of ecology & latter supported with the growth in knowledge about road design - straighter ain't always safer.I've been wondering if the Maori concept of all things having 'Mauri' might be reflected in scientific knowledge of molecular vibration?
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I wasn't going to wade into Deborah's Blog post lauded by Russell.
Now in the light Deborah confirms her stance could 'justify' infantacide, do we have a similar show of support?
I did think it was bad tast to reffer to your kids as livestock after that post, but to follow through with this is gob-smackingly inane.
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Science is a belief structure.
Rich you've assumed science can measure all things, which it can't & so is not absolute - that be vodka.
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Grant & Russell - Why try to invalidate each others understanding of life?
Might be time to accept their are different beliefs (yip science is a belief structure) on when life starts.
No-one seems to have changed their mind through this discussion, but certainly some thoughtful insights have been presented, by some.
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Cheers Islander, I appreciate your comment.
I see the two issues as very similar & your views are consistant.
I don't see either becoming an election issue, but hope for a better formed and reasoned policy as a result.
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Could I ask those infavour of our privious abortion policy & practise, if you may be in favour of euthanasia?
It might be handy in removing the gender bias of abortion for a moment.
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Anon for obvious reasons - a tragic tale, please let me express sympathy as the others here have.
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I really do want to get away from blaming the women going to the clinics. That's not my aim at all.
Shaping a community where it is not needed because supports are in place, is my preffered option - Nanny State if you will.Craig was right - I wonder where the sane people are?
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David - I don't know.
I think we can do far better than we are in the care of kiddies & sole parents, thereby making it a dignified option, along with adoption than is currently being done. -
David - If it can't survive without the mother, (and is not actually conscious), then it's not fully human yet.
So close the neo-natal unit then eh?
Russell - I know a few who have held a small service to morn the loss in miscarriage, no death notice mind you.
A little more nuanced discussion might be helpful here.