Posts by Ian MacKay
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Jackie : Bollocks to you too. There is nothing apologetic to violence there! It makes we wonder however about your attitude. If I pointed out that Kristen demanded $150, 21 months after the event, I bet you would turn that into some sort of apology for violence! I repeat that I am fervently against violence, but people including you are frail.
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What a nightmare. Wrong if you front up. Wrong if you do. Wrong if you have a cheerful photo. Wrong if have a sombre one. Wrong if you express admiration for the victim. Wrong if you don't etc etc. What ever you say or do is wrong after the event.
I wonder if all can say they have never ever lost it. If so lucky you. If not, then it only becomes a matter of degree. -
Sacha. You make a good moderator/facilitator. Thankyou.
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Robbery: I will have to be more careful how I phrase it. I was and am agreeing with you and applauding your stand. well Done!
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see that's not how I read the thread at all and why I felt the need to comment. there were a good 17 pages of comments before russell pasted in some txt from the post (unless I missed it earlier in the thread). prior to that it did indeed appear that people were talking about what they imagined had happened instead of what actually had happened. this was nicely highlighted by someone's comment that her spine was "crushed" in 4 places, which in my mind brought up images of veitch as a terminator style cyborg using his machine like endoskeleton to perform superhuman.......etc etc.
Great to read some commonsense and balance Robbery and I was being straight, not ironic before.
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Sorry Craig. Just been saying what I thought.
Robbery: I wonder if the ideas that you put forward are deliberately misrepresented in order to avoid the ideas expressed. I thought that this was a forum where it was OK to have a different slant. -
Jackie: I surrender! The fellow is evil! He broke her back! It was a black and white event. She was totally the victim. I get it. Forgive me for looking for the possible variations to the theme! I am off to buy a cake of chocolate and then have a cup of tea.
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Who is Deborah?
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B. Jones
That actually sounds like you're looking for sympathy for the terrible burden of not having committed domestic violence. No wonder Deborah's getting annoyed.
What rubbish. I included a little self-disclosure with some fear that someone might attack for it. I wrote it make clear that I do know about provocation, and to negate that some have taken me to be in favour of violence. Not so!
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So while both men and women must work to manage their behaviour so they don't hurt their partners, the average straight man must, in some sense, work harder than the average straight woman. He has to manage both the much greater likelihood he has of doing damage if he does hit her, and physiological and societal reasons for being more likely to hit her in the first place.
Good stuff Anita. Although the restraint can be trying. (By the way I think you might be about the same size as Veitch.)