Posts by Mrs Skin

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  • Hard News: Veitch,

    Assuming that you mean the "Sensible Sentencing Trust", I would disagree with you to an extreme.

    Islander, yes that's who I was referring to.

    I thought for a moment Mrs Skin was referring to a two-bit outfit churning out dross and highly subjective opinion masquerading as fact. But then I realised she wasn't referring to the Sunday Star Times.

    In my world, MSM stands for Men who have Sex with Men. It took me aaages and one or two double takes to work out what it stands for here.

    Rich, that's hilarious.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    As it happens, yes.

    OK, not total disagreement then.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    Islander, yes that's who I was referring to.

    What I meant was that they believe that some areas of the law don't reflect the community's sense of justice and are attempting to have the law changed to better reflect (their understanding of) community views. The same options are open to all of us.

    I am not saying for a second that I agree with their beliefs.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    Mark, remember we still have a huge number of pre-MMP laws, i.e. from a time when it was the norm for the governing political party to pass whatever law they felt like. For all it's flaws I'd argue that because MMP gives our community the opportunity to have more of a say, we end up with laws that better reflect our community's beliefs.

    Having said that, on some occasions that bulldozing ability protected the minority from the views of the majority, e.g. the Homosexual Law Reform Act.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    I don't like Vetich's sentence but I like the fact that he's be tried and found guilty of a crime. That's better than letting his estranged partner's family sort him out.

    Indeed. And who gets to decide what justice is? The estranged partner's family? Cloudwalker? Me? Our legal system might not always deliver our particular view of justice in an individual case but our laws are intended to reflect our community's view of what justice broadly looks like.

    Yes laws do become outdated and the system for changing them is slow. The speed thing has pros and cons. But the good thing is that it IS possible to change laws that no longer reflect our community's beliefs. So if one feels strongly enough that justice is not being achieved in a particular field one has a variety of mechanisms available to push for change.

    Which is what the SST does.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    Well, now we know what Holmes thinks eternity is.
    2 years.

    One does rather feel as though one has endured several eternities of Holmes.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    Kerry - wow. Well done. Wow.

    It's hard enough parenting teenagers* without extra lumps thrown in. You're a bloody star.

    Something that is often repeated, and that I found to be true for myself, is that one of the hardest things about losing someone close is that people stop talking about them and it becomes like they never existed. You know your brother best, but I would urge you to consider letting him know that you miss your nephew and that you're there if he ever wants you to be. Perhaps write a letter. That way he doesn't have to reply if he's not comfortable talking about it.

    *Free to good home - one 17-year old. As is, where is.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    If his depression truly was precipitated by the feeling that the public hadn't bought his apology, those contacts seem consistent with how Veitch would behave in a genuine moment of distress.

    Remembering too, that his career depends largely on the public liking - or at the very least not disliking - him.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    The Sunday Programme has decided to cancel the interview Cameron Bennett did with Tony Veitch that was going to run on tonight’s show.

    Good decision. Well done that Current Affairs Editor.

    These sort of people refuse to examine themselves, show a lack of self-awareness (at least at a conscious level) and instead try to construct complicated narratives of self-justification.

    There appears to me to be a certain level/kind of depression that manifests itself in the kind of near-complete self-centredness Kracklite noted above. It seems to be genuine depression characterised by a very teenaged view of the world and how it relates to the sufferer. The people I've known who have this are not ordinarily any more self-centred than the average, they just get trapped in a little side eddy of this weird narcissistic and depressed headspace.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

  • Hard News: Veitch,

    Thank you Kracklite. That's what I was poking blindly at.

    the warmest room in the h… • Since Feb 2009 • 168 posts Report

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