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Just to cheer us up a little, here is a nice piece on the benefits of Twitter for teh ladies .
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Capture: Upside Down, Inside Out, in reply to Russell Brown,
A summery reflection …
A happy sunny doze! We all should be so lucky. :-)
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Up Front: Everyone is Wrong. And Right. Whatever., in reply to Rich Lock,
Isn’t that rather like a 21st Century equivalent of the stocks, though?
I don't think so. It's unmasking people who abuse their online anonymity to make threats of violence. What these troll-men are saying is quite extreme stuff.
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Up Front: Everyone is Wrong. And Right. Whatever., in reply to Kumara Republic,
I’m personally of the view that swinging the ban-hammer at rape-grade trolls is attacking the symptom and playing whack-a-mole.
It works with spammers. Well enough that spam doesn't significantly intrude on anyone's experience. And it makes the community standard clear: no spammers, nohow.
Tracking down and publicly humiliating rape-threatening trolls is a hugely time-consuming enterprise, if nothing else.
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Up Front: Everyone is Wrong. And Right. Whatever., in reply to Russell Brown,
Twitter is full of user-created spaces with their own standards and vernaculars, none of which can be parsed at a glance.
I agree with Emma: Twitter must work harder on abuse, but the bar for sanctions will have to be high, and we shouldn’t expect miracles.
Yes, I don't disagree with any of this. But I think the really nasty stuff is obvious at a glance. I'm not expecting Twitter to make people play nicely with each other, just to stop scum making threats of violence.
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Up Front: Everyone is Wrong. And Right. Whatever., in reply to Joanna,
I only wish that I could have seen the face of the guy when he got the letter, when he saw that actions have consequences. I am really grateful for how great Vodafone was in dealing with it.
So glad you got some action. Sorry you had to deal with it, though. Even if the right things happen, these things are super distressing. Hugs.
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Reading this account of a sexologist outing a troll , I wondered how many zillion hours of work one twatcock can generate. And especially when they're creepy and revolting but not quite personally threatening.
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I think there are some very interesting issues just under the surface here, about equality of access and rights to free speech. Most people think moderation and/or banning on a website is the same as censorship. But websites aren't actually public places any more than shopping malls are: the real estate is privately owned and the owners can impose any condition on entry that they choose.
But we have this situation where services like Twitter and FB have become so powerful in terms of their reach that we use them as we would a public space, and we expect certain things from them as of right.
Has anyone ever successfully sued a website for moderating or banning? Is such an action even possible?
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Up Front: Everyone is Wrong. And Right. Whatever., in reply to Russell Brown,
I’d still be wary of any kind of automatic dumping at all. It’s extremely likely that the majority of reporting disputes would not be clear-cut and would involve sincerely-held contrary views. And in the US, it’s pretty much a given that someone who gets dumped in that way will try and sue Twitter.
As Emma said upthread, everything that applies to a “report abuse” button also applies to the “report spam” button we already have. And we are getting the “report abuse” button, rolling out to the iOS app first and then to Android and the website next month . So we’ll see how that goes. I think it'll make a big difference.
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Up Front: Everyone is Wrong. And Right. Whatever., in reply to Emma Hart,
I raise my eyebrow very high indeed at Twitter’s assertion that they can’t see a deleted tweet. That’s either a lie or an extraordinarily poor decision.
Agreed. And that’s what they say. I RTed the original threat to preserve it, but Twitter still didn't care.
What DID happen was a whole bunch of my tweeps rushed to assist. That was nice. Community is powerful.