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  • Emma Hart, in reply to Lilith __,

    No, Lilith, it's not mine. It's from... Chile? Argentina? Somewhere like that. So it also wouldn't accidentally be anyone else's school photo.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report

  • Carol Stewart, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    I don’t think your Scotsman is wearing leggings, Lucy – just rather remarkable tartan socks and pasty white Scottish skin (I can say this as I have this skin colour myself).

    BTW – if you really want to go for backup overkill, may I recommend Dropbox?

    Wellington • Since Jul 2008 • 830 posts Report

  • Jacqui Dunn, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    I think those are thick woollen socks, Lucy.

    The sassenach made the Scots wear leggings, which is where the dance “Seann Truibhias” (spelling? unsure….way back in my memory) comes from.

    Snap, Carol!

    Deepest, darkest Avondale… • Since Jul 2010 • 585 posts Report

  • Lilith __, in reply to Jolisa,

    Um, this is for Jolisa, apologies for threadjacking, I wouldn't post it here if there was a contact form I could find...have you seen this? As PA's anti-plagiarism tsarina, do you have any thoughts on the matter?

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report

  • Lilith __, in reply to Carol Stewart,

    pasty white Scottish skin (I can say this as I have this skin colour myself)

    White, going on purple? Me too. ;-)

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report

  • Islander, in reply to Lucy Stewart,

    Lucy, that's a plaid...there are weird & wonderful discussions among People Who Care About These Matters about just how plaids were draped and fastened.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • Jacqui Dunn, in reply to Islander,

    Oh, this is where it gets complicated! There's "plaid" and "plaid". One is the material, the tartan, and the other is the drapy thing over the shoulder.

    Which one are you thinking of, Islander?

    Deepest, darkest Avondale… • Since Jul 2010 • 585 posts Report

  • Lilith __,

    One the subject of Scottish undergarments, try this! Or perhaps these, which look REALLY cosy, for those chilly nights! Who knew woollen knickers could be 'flirty'?!

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report

  • Jacqui Dunn, in reply to Lilith __,

    Lol. Trouble is, they'd make a very odd bulge under your sleek skirt. Oh wait....that's right. Don't wear one!

    Deepest, darkest Avondale… • Since Jul 2010 • 585 posts Report

  • Islander, in reply to Jacqui Dunn,

    The garment - I saw an old one in Aberdeen that was 8 yards long: the custodian said wrly, "It's not the biggest we have - we dont have the space to display the big ones."
    They were wrapped around the waist and over 1 - or both - shoulder/s.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report

  • Carol Stewart,

    And in a happy theme-merge, the mini-kilt. In the clearance bin, what's more.

    Wellington • Since Jul 2008 • 830 posts Report

  • Lilith __, in reply to Carol Stewart,

    Or the hipster mini-kilt! Certainly not 8 yards of fabric in that one! Plus, in the closeup I can see the model's goosebumps. :-)

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3895 posts Report

  • Jacqui Dunn, in reply to Islander,

    I can only refer to more modern plaids - they would be held at the shoulder by a large silver and cairngorm brooch, and would be tied around the waist, looping to same length as the kilt skirt. (Mind you, I'm talking Highland dancing costume here, but they were fairly traditional). I think perhaps the plaid (which my teacher pronounced "played" - as opposed to "plad" in the other meaning) was a blanket.

    Believe me, Highland dancing in summer, before the advent of the new costume, used to be a very sweaty affair!

    Forgive total thread hijack!!!!

    Deepest, darkest Avondale… • Since Jul 2010 • 585 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    One of my favourite Canadians would be
    Rand Holmes (R.I.P.) best known for his classic Harold Hedd underground comics and his Georgia Straight (Vancouver) covers and contributions.

    Thank you for posting this - hadn't heard - but this is very sad news.

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    Did you see Atom Egoyan’s film The Sweet Hereafter, Dyan? It was a real downer in a way that was just totally .. Canadian.

    Oh, god, yes that film is so Canadian. Earlier Canadian films have equally depressing themes - Goin' Down the Road is the Canadian equivalent (in other words the obverse) of the American Dream...

    Two goofy Newfies head for the big city to take it by storm - and the audience is invited to laugh at their bumbling, comical inept adventures... until slowly... ther sense of despair, and the characters' own awareness of their gaucheness slowly grips the guilty audience by the throat. It starts as slapstick and ends as tragedy. And because you, the viewer are so lacking in compassion, humanity and insight, you laugh at first, and you feel rank for ever mistaking someone's delusion or gaucheness as humourous in the first place. Ever again.

    It's a great film, and Sacha, if you liked the Sweet Hereafter, you'd probably like Goin' Down the Road.

    Then there is The Rowdyman which starts with a really handsome, funny, popular, irresponsible man whose practical joker, life of the party way and his inability to commit to a woman and his immaturity take him from enviable to pitiable all in one movie. His childhood sweetheart not only doesn't save him, but tells him exactly why she would never choose him, even if she didn't have a decent husband and kids waiting inside.

    They're both really good films, but they really show the massive gulf between the American and the Canadian sensibility. Margaret Atwood wrote an entire book devoted to the theme, and in it she said that "If Moby Dick had been written by a Canadian, it would have been from the whale's point of view."

    You should see what we can do with a love story. I remember one where the heroine stabs herself to death at the end...

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • Carol Stewart,

    “If Moby Dick had been written by a Canadian, it would have been from the whale’s point of view.”

    Margaret Atwood is wayy beyond brilliant.

    Wellington • Since Jul 2008 • 830 posts Report

  • Joe Wylie,

    More Canadians (Warning: Lumberjacks)

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report

  • recordari,

    This thread has been jacked by mounties.

    I got nothing to say about that video, other than I'm pretty happy being a Kiwi right now...

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Andre Alessi, in reply to dyan campbell,

    Canada also does horror films remarkably well, as long as you don't mind thinking and stuff. Ginger Snaps and Pontypool are both worth checking out (for vastly different reasons.)

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Jackie Clark,

    I got nothing to say about that video, other than I'm pretty happy being a Kiwi right now...

    I've always been happy being a Kiwi. Not fashionable, I know, at times. But I'm a bit like that.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report

  • recordari,

    Not fashionable, I know, at times. But I’m a bit like that.

    Witty statement which hath eluded me and thus was deleted.

    Or something.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • webweaver, in reply to Tess Rooney,

    I see your Britney and raise you a Glee:

    GQ Glee photoshoot.

    I know this was mentioned ages ago in the thread but anyway...

    Am I the only person who found these pictures really rather squicky?

    I went and had a look out of interest (I have obviously been hiding under a rock cos I hadn't heard about them before) and I only got as far as Lea Michele's sitting astride the changing room bench with legs wide open shot and I decided that I didn't really want to look at any of the others.

    Am I having an uncharacteristically prudish moment and I really need to get over myself and accept them for the jolly fun and celebration of whatever that they obviously are - or are others similarly squicked out?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 332 posts Report

  • Emma Hart,

    Am I the only person who found these pictures really rather squicky?

    Nope.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4651 posts Report

  • giovanni tiso,

    Missed the stop at Playful Sexy and was forced to get off the Creepy Junction.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • webweaver, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    YES! Exactly, Gio.

    Whereas I thought the costuming for the Britney Glee episode last week (which I guess was the original inspiration for the GQ shoot?) was spot-on.

    Britney’s costumes for the original videos, were, I think (not being an expert on these things) pretty well replicated in the dream sequences in the Britney Glee episode and in Rachel’s new shorty schoolgirl skirt and plaits outfit.

    And somehow both the Britney vids and the Glee costumes managed to stay just this side of schoolgirl pr0n. I felt they were sexy and titillating without being vulgar. Others may (and did at the time of Britney’s “Hit Me Baby” video) disagree, but there we go. That’s where my line in the sand appears to be drawn on this particular subject.

    The GQ shots, on the other hand, IMO, stepped WAY over that line into soft porn and I HATED them. Very creepy and completely squicky.

    Being a big old Glee fan I found it as shocking and inappropriate as if they’d, I dunno, dressed up Christopher Robin in bondage gear and had him whacking Winnie the Pooh’s backside with a leather whip. Or something.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 332 posts Report

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