Hard News: Revival
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Ronnie was the heart and soul of The Faces.
I guess that makes Rod and Woody the cock and balls of the Faces.I'm guessing there are no takers
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You are thinking of omelettes; yellow, flat things which keep plates stabilised on a table.
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I'm faintly intrigued by the idea of going to the Gang of Four gig being advertised here -- but doesn't that consist of listening to a load of tracks that sound exactly like they do on the albums?
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Re The Pretty Things--the campaign was orchestrated by Truth
I seem to recall that the meatheaded moral guardians at Truth were fulminating against the Pretty Things' visit from the moment they became aware of it. These were the kind of get-a-haircut muscles-between-the-ears types whose idea of cutting-edge journalism was to follow up on a tip about an NZ-born woman stripping at a club in Kings X and publish her name, along with a demand that she apologise to the entire NZ populace for bringing the nation into disrepute. Yes, they really did that.
Anyway, the band's name alone was enough to get the Truthoids slavering. If the government wouldn't bar them entry for the good of the nation then all right-thinkers were exhorted to keep their backs firmly to the wall for the duration of the tour. Once it became apparent the the P. Things were something other than a bunch of perfumed milksops Truth adopted the lock-up-your-daughters risk to public order approach. I don't recall Viv Prince's lighted newspaper outrage, but there was an account of misbehaviour on an NAC flight, and a scathing description of how, rather than engage with the media, the band chanted "Reeb! Reeb!", helpfully translated as "schoolboy slang for beer." Shocking stuff.
In its heyday Truth was noted for its marvellous billboards. Notable examples were Let's Give These Ratbag Students A Hiding, and Girl's Riverside Ordeal With "The Pig". My all-time fave was Girl-Crazy Dictator Pins Down NZ Troops, Truth-speak for a minor NZ army brush with Indonesian forces during the Malaysian Konfontasi emergency engineered by Sukarno.
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all my first musical heroes are babyboomers, Iggy, Keith, John Lennon,Jimmy Morrison,Joe Strummer.
Iggy Pop and Joe Strummer would be the only babyboomers in that lineup...
There should be a rule when you have enough money so you can afford annual holidays away in winter, and $200 concert tickets.
Are you kidding?? Jeez, doesn't that pretty much sum up both the babyboomers and generation x? Are you familiar with the term "Poverty Jet Set" ?
A group of people given to chronic traveling at the expense of long-term job stability or a permanent residence. Tend to have doomed and extremely expensive phone call relationships with people names Serge or Ilyana. Tend to discuss frequent-flyer programs at parties.
It was coined by Douglas Coupland (a boy from my 'hood) and it was meant to describe that demographic that ignores their career advancement, job stability - or in some cases, their graduate studies - and flies to Tahiti, Hawaii, Cabo San Lucas, Koh Samui, or anywhere you can "get a tan on your bum". Punk songs were sung about such things. You flew steerage, of course.
The Young Canadians - Let's Go to Fucking Hawaii
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Blonde Redhead
Played here last month, but it was just too damn cold, generally prone to tearing up the place. Great band.
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Thanks, Joe. Excellent information. I remember Truth used to go on a lot about cases of 'carnal knowledge', which as a schoolboy I was pretty ignorant about., even though they sounded enthralling. It did visit my school (Hawera High) in pursuit of a scandal once but about what I do not know (something behind the bike sheds?).
As I grew older and wiser, we used to refer to it as (Anything But the) Truth
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@Petra: no, don't know about these. Must have been before we shifted to Hammy from Wellington in 1992.
Ahh, yep. Most excellent parties they were, but very much in the 80's. Maybe in the 70's too, but that would have been before my time.
As for the Truth, I always thought they were just a gutter tabloid, but more of the busty page 3 girl variety, rather than the let's bash some students heads variety. Though, come to think, maybe there isn't really much difference between the two. Hmmmnn. Never read it myself, and never saw it around the house.I think I have a vague recollection of the King's Cross stripper from NZ though. Maybe...
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My parents would buy Truth as an occasional vice. It was forbidden to us kids, but I'd sneak a look. Then I'd blow it by casually asking "What's assault?" and it'd be "You've been reading Truth!"
Later I had an after-school job in a plant nursery, sowing boxes of vege seedlings. You had to line the boxes with newspaper before filling them with dirt. That's where I read the stripper story.
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lol, how appropriate, Joe! A dirt box for a dirt story.
So if you weren't allowed to read it, was it because it had a busty page 3 girl with no top on? 'Cos if they did, did no one pull them up on the hypocrisy of their naming and shaming a stripper, when a topless model is making them money on page 3?
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You had to line the boxes with newspaper before filling them with dirt. That's where I read the stripper story.
Right....
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all my first musical heroes are babyboomers, Iggy, Keith, John Lennon,Jimmy Morrison,Joe Strummer.
Iggy Pop and Joe Strummer would be the only babyboomers in that lineup...
You might be seriously rewriting social history if you credit Keith Richards to the greatest generation.Maybe Britian started a bit early but technically yes by being a wartime birth you aren't even though you most certainly are.
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baby-boomer = a person born after the end of WW2, i.e 1945, and before the end of 1965-
and within my very large babyboomer family&friend cohort, there is NO-ONE who takes annual holidays overseas or who is wealthy except in family & friends. So, STFU those folk who make unwarranted generalisations.
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and funnily enough Iggy and Joe are more punk icons. I know its probably more reflective to consider where you are in the first twenty years of your life than these silly generational terms , but these groupings have their usefulness , that's why we do census.
There is some desire out there in academic land to form a new generational grouping for 1957 - 1967. The Punk Rock Generation?
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No porn of an overtly sexual nature in pre-1970s Truth. It really was a case of No Sex Please, We're NZers.
The grubby stuff was the salacious nature of the crime coverage, and probably, though it meant nothing to me back then, the horrible drawn-out business of public divorce. NZ being such a small place until relatively recently, it was probable that you'd stumble upon the icky personal details of somebody you were at least distantly aware of.
Thank Cthulhu for liberalised laws governing human relationships. And for cosmopolitan immigration. Usually when I bump up against an anti-immigration argument I'm reminded of that small-minded backbiting Truth mentality. There really are still a few who'd like it to come back.
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So, STFU those folk who make unwarranted generalisations.
Gen x and Gen y are deficient in economic resources compared to the next available block to compare.O.K.
That doesn't mean you are wealthy , in fact any study of wealth distribution would endorse your point of view that most folks have fuck all.
But there are asset-holding proportions and voting trends in the older blocks that can't be ignored and there is 2 generations who have never seen a left government in operation.
But all these generations, we are all just monkeys with different primary school teachers and different finance ministers at different key strategic points in your life.
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If you'd said 'apes' Jeremy Eade, I could mainly agree with you....
And may I politely point out, that for those who start out with assets, accumulation of more assets is the norm? The fact that a lot of them were born between 1945 & 1965 is only indicative that, even in ANZ, established groups dont change all that much.
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Oh, god, you guys! I don't know who I am any more! Am I Gen X, a babyboomer, Generation Jones, all three, 2 of three, on the cusp...? 1963, was my year of geniture. All I know is it was a good year for French Bordeaux and surfer grooves!
Ahh, those days of "No sex, please, we're NZers", back when little girls should've been flattered by molestations. We must fight hard to never return to those dark days. -
So, STFU those folk who make unwarranted generalisations.
Gen x and Gen y are deficient in economic resources compared to the next available block to compare.O.K.
I did deliberate before opting for the words "en masse". Perhaps you had to be there, but it was quite the demographic profile. More than 20,000 people paid $130 to $200 each to attend the show over two nights, and a very large proportion seemed to come from the baby boomer cohort.
I'm not quibbling about value -- it was a concert of the highest class -- but I don't think you could ask that sort of money of a twenty or even thirtysomething audience. Older audiences are really important to the music touring business at the moment.
Although I wonder if Robin Gibb's struggling a bit for sales ...
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and within my very large babyboomer family&friend cohort, there is NO-ONE who takes annual holidays overseas or who is wealthy except in family & friends. So, STFU those folk who make unwarranted generalisations
Islander, I am sorry to upset you (especially you, as you have created real characters who live and breathe in your writing) but the quote about the Poverty Jet Set
"A group of people given to chronic traveling at the expense of long-term job stability or a permanent residence. Tend to have doomed and extremely expensive phone call relationships with people names Serge or Ilyana. Tend to discuss frequent-flyer programs at parties."
was by Douglas Coupland, and when he was talking about "The Poverty Jet Set" was describing a facet of the lives of the demographic he coined the term Generation X to describe.
But then I always think of the book - and I very much see the landscape of my own youth. Baby boomers and - even more so Xers, as described by Coupland, enjoyed a golden sense of entitlement - however mockable and repugnant - that is a peculiar characteristic of the most indulged generations in history. It was the land of rampant consumerism, great wealth and post war parents who wished for nothing more than to give their kids everything in the world. And the standard of living there was insanely high - In 1979 I had a job that (oh god in hindsight this kills me) that would have bought me a modest house in Vancouver in a year, or a nice house in two years. And I was a receptionist. a bloody receptionist at a publishing firm. So I - and all my friends who worked in similar 'McJobs" - took holiday after holiday and bought insanely expensive clothes. In hindsight, I wish I'd bought property. Because, boy, did it go up in price. And Jeremy - back then a lot of folks who'd been born in the first 30 years of the 20th C seemed to own everything.
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Petra - sorry, but technically you are a babyboomer.
Since I find - not a lot of consonance(so to speak) with the younger end of my family sibs (there's a decade between us)- I think the era was drawn with way too broad a brush.They were, and are, marketing terms, and they really dont take in the differences between city/town & country demographics. Including, y'know, cultural & historical stuff.
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It did visit my school (Hawera High) in pursuit of a scandal once but about what I do not know
something about night-time chicken slayings..
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I was in Guatemala at the time, your honour! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it)
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Gen X's Elvis shot himself in the head. That's all I remember, oh and my first vote left put Roger Douglas in power.
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