Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: Reviews: #NZGT and the Herald

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  • Russell Brown, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    Unless it was just the iPhone app that got a facelift.

    Probably. There is no other platform [ETA: of any significance], after all.

    Ah. I had to search for the app when an update wasn't showing, and just downloaded and synced that to my phone. Didn't notice that the phone app is different to the iPad one. I now have dual instances of Herald apps on my iPad.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Ward, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    today's brain fart about the Conservative Party only needing to do 1.35 "percentage points" better than their 2011 2.65% in order to cross a 4% threshold. That may be true, but it's more enlightening to point out that it requires a 50.9% increase in the number of votes the Party receives for that to happen.

    Or that the margin of error on the poll is 3.6%...

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1727 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Nothing showing up as new in Play Store. The only NZ Herald app is the one I already have installed. So, as I was saying...

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia,

    NZGT. Oh, I did enjoy it ... I thought it was well edited and ... yes... I love Tamati. Even Rachel Hunter was endearing. She's so beautiful and kind of natural. Bit dumb but it doesn't matter.

    And the new Herald is a big improvement ... I cafe-tested it today.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

  • David Ritchie,

    Since Nov 2006 • 166 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    QR codes are terminally uncool.

    What is needed is a barcode format that's almost, but not quite, unlike a QR code, but would be cool, because new.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Lucy Stewart, in reply to Gareth Ward,

    Or that the margin of error on the poll is 3.6%...

    Or that they report them at 1.4% in the graphic and both 1.4 and 1.5% in the text, either of which adds up to a total of 99.8 or 99.9% with all the other parties included. When the number that headlines your article is variant depending on rounding method, pick one and stick with it, guys...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2105 posts Report Reply

  • Bevan Shortridge,

    I was a bit sorry to hear on Sunday's Mediawatch that "The Aucklander" lift out on Thursdays has come to an end. I used to actually look at that...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 122 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole,

    The new format doesn't seem to have done anything at all to the quality of the editing. Simple courtesies such as capitalising "Air Force" and ranks are apparently foreign. All the more galling for their capitalisation of New Zealand Defence Force.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Paul Williams,

    There’s a nice symmetry to this, both men fighting ancient wars and struggling for relevance. A debate between them on almost every issue would resolve ultimately into (a) you’re a lazy commie followed by (b) you’re a wealthy prick. This is edifying?

    Or to put it succinctly, a bit like two bald men fighting over a comb.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Think of it as a rare opportunity to see how this kind of television is actually made. It’s not all in the editing, but mostly.

    Yeah. I knew it was fake, but not how incredibly fake it was.

    Ben Elton wrote a book on these sorts of TV shows (Heart Throb?), which I suspect is more 'real' than the actual shows.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    capitalising "Air Force" and ranks

    The paper's usage is correct. Titles are capitalized, job descriptions are not.
    "Flight Lieutenant Bigglesworth" / "the corporal looked up".

    See Guardian style guide, under capitals.

    (The actual howler in that article is "Rob Stockley sits solemn in his dining room". Should be "solemnly").

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Andrew, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    Given NZ's population, surely everyone must have been on a reality show by now?
    I was on (in the background of) Dream Home a few years back.

    The important thing to remember about any of these shows is that they are not competitions, they are TV shows, and as such will be manipulated however the producers see fit to boost the ratings.

    I didn't watch The Block, for example, but all this hooha about the losers needing charity? The 'losers' on Dream Home generally got at least half their mortgage covered by the show on the hush hush.

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Aston, in reply to Bevan Shortridge,

    I was a bit sorry to hear on Sunday’s Mediawatch that “The Aucklander” lift out on Thursdays has come to an end. I used to actually look at that…

    Well I was really pissed by that , I had 5 front page ads booked in the Aucklander until the end of the year and no one from APN thought to tell me they were ditching the Auckander until today. And yes it was a good read for a local rag.

    Northland • Since Nov 2006 • 510 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Aston,

    I enjoyed the first NZ's Got Talent. Yeah I know its a template and we are all being manipulated but hey they have been doing that since the Circus.

    Tamati Coffey is the right mix of cruisy host with a heart , our Rachael surprised me she played her part so well, Jason Kerrison did a watered down mean dude but I never liked that character anyway.

    I was entertained and watched the whole thing and hey I am a real snob about talent shows like Idol .

    Northland • Since Nov 2006 • 510 posts Report Reply

  • Richard Aston, in reply to Jeremy Andrew,

    Given NZ’s population, surely everyone must have been on a reality show by now?

    Good question for a pop survey right here . Who here has been on a reality show ?

    Me - once .

    Northland • Since Nov 2006 • 510 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Jeremy Andrew,

    I didn’t watch The Block, for example, but all this hooha about the losers needing charity? The ‘losers’ on Dream Home generally got at least half their mortgage covered by the show on the hush hush.

    #FirstWorldProblems, much?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

  • st ephen,

    I knew it was fake, but not how incredibly fake it was.

    I happened to be in the Octagon on the day, and saw the limo pull up outside the theatre. It was only then that I noticed the red carpet and the rope holding back a somewhat bemused crowd of at least ten teenage girls. I guessed that the chap who hopped out of the limo was Ben Lummis. Or someone off the GC. Or an afternoon TV host. Anyway, he stepped onto the carpet, the cameras zoomed in extra tight, and (three-two-one) the "crowd" screamed a little and waved their flags. Then I think the limo ducked around the corner to pick up the next celeb and repeated the process. It was kind of cool, like watching actors do their thing in front of a green screen.

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 254 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Calder,

    The actual howler in that article is “Rob Stockley sits solemn in his dining room”. Should be “solemnly”)

    If I’d subbed that I would have left it. I think you are being very stiff-necked and text-booky about the difference between an adverb and an adjective. It was Rob Stockley that was solemn, not the sitting that he was doing, so an adverb is far from mandatory. Change “solemn” to “impatient” and you will see what I mean. The point is arguable, but to call it a howler is … well, a howler.
    And it was a bloody good piece – well written and a cracker story as well.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 66 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I happened to be in the Octagon on the day, and saw the limo pull up outside the theatre.

    When the crowd was queuing there was an anti-asset sales protest going on in the Octagon. As the queue got longer the two crowds started to merge just before the anti-asset people started throwing plates greek-style.

    You'd struggle to find two groups of people more opposite ever.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Peter Calder,

    If I’d subbed that I would have left it.

    Me too. And I'd be grumpy if I'd written it and a sub changed it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22848 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Calder, in reply to Russell Brown,

    In the old days in Herald features there was a sub - now, mercifully, not among us - who had to be physically restrained from changing "missed by a mile" to "missed by 1.6km". I am not making this up.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 66 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Peter Calder,

    Fair point.

    The best error I've seen in the Herald (probably computer generated) is the conversion of the abbreviation STG into a pound sign, as in this article:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10783521

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Peter Calder,

    Does any one care, indeed...

    In the old days in Herald features there was a sub...

    ...not one who looks at website headlines I guess, judging by this...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • FletcherB, in reply to Gareth Ward,

    Or that the margin of error on the poll is 3.6%…

    Frequently that may be the case... but this was referring to the 2011 election.... margins of error are presumed not to exist once all the votes have been counted.

    West Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 893 posts Report Reply

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