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Hard News: Reviews: #NZGT and the Herald

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  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    The best error I’ve seen in the Herald (probably computer generated) is the conversion of the abbreviation STG into a pound sign, as in this article

    Another article on the same general topic had "sterling" where I assumed, from its out-of-context position, STG should have been. Their auto-complete is obviously not something the authors watch with the necessary level of care.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    The correct capitalization of a rank depends on the context, as per the examples above.

    In this article, the usage can be seen - ranks are in uppercase when used as titles, lowercase when used as nouns. "a part-time American major " vs "Col Collins"

    The same in this Economist article.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Rich of Observationz,

    In which case I'm now thoroughly confused as to whether they meant the man's rank or his former job description, particularly given that military officers are normally given a job title of "officer commanding xyz".

    The style guide also appears to bear out my ire at their lack of capitalisation of Air Force. They're not talking about a collection of military aircraft lacking a cohesive identity, in which case air force would be correct, they're talking about an identified organisation with a title that is being shortened. Likewise "defence force", which is the short form of an organisation's name.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    and there’s talk of “defence websites” which should, I believe, be “Defence websites” since I’ve assumed it’s meaning websites operated by parts of NZDF.

    Hmm.

    "The New Zealand Defence Force website is one of several defence websites..."

    Works for me, except I would have thought web site is two words.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Keir Leslie,

    It is perfectly legitimate to say former wing commander Logan Cudby – the capitalization attaches to the name, not the rank. Governor-General Grey, formerly governor-general.

    Air force doesn’t take a capital any more than army does. They are using air force as a descriptor, not a proper noun. When they do use it is a proper noun they do capitalise.

    Since Jul 2008 • 1452 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    web site is two words

    notanymore

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Yamis,

    website is the most commonly used these days but Web site and web site are also used.

    However I would say that by far the most apt description for most pages on the internet is webshite.

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report

  • Tom Semmens,

    The "new" Herald's "Our Network's Top Stories" links directly to the NZ Women's Weekly. Broadsheet trash in substance is now tabloid trash in form.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2217 posts Report

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to martinb,

    Feel like I need somewhere to mourn the tactility of broadsheet.

    Fair enough. When in the UK, I'd go out every morning and buy the Berliner format Guardian and the broadsheet Daily Telegraph. Guess which one I tended to read first on the train?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report

  • Jeremy Andrew, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    When in the UK, I'd go out every morning and buy the Berliner format Guardian and the broadsheet Daily Telegraph. Guess which one I tended to read first on the train?

    Given APN's new owners, perhaps the Berliner format would have been more appropriate...

    Hamiltron - City of the F… • Since Nov 2006 • 900 posts Report

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Jeremy Andrew,

    Given APN’s new owners, perhaps the Berliner format would have been more appropriate…

    Nah. That's ACP, publishers of Metro, North & South etc, not APN.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    The “new” Herald’s “Our Network’s Top Stories” links directly to the NZ Women’s Weekly. Broadsheet trash in substance is now tabloid trash in form.

    I actually think Herald homepage links to fellow APN titles the Woman's Weekly and The Listener are long overdue.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • martinb, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Is the theH sponsoring an expansion of our train system then?

    I'd actually be ok with that. Be the best way to re establish some cred, short of page 3 models.

    Nah- broadsheets for desks, kitchen tables, armchairs, park benches, fish and chips long weekend afternoons and also multiple rereads.

    Auckland • Since Jul 2010 • 206 posts Report

  • James W,

    Is the theH sponsoring an expansion of our train system then?

    There's been a guy giving away free copies of the new Herald every morning at my train station. So, possibly.

    I like the new design. Feels much more modern and appropriate for the year 2012. The content's a little squashed in there, especially once there's three ads on a page, but – and this is coming from someone who never has anything nice to say about the Herald – I think they should be applauded for trying to make the newspaper a bit more exciting and vital. It even feels like their hard news quotient has gone up since the change, but maybe that's just perception.

    What I find most unexpected is Shayne Currie's beloved top strip of houses, tits and sharks has now gone. I figured that wouldn't matter because at the new size the whole front page is "above the fold", and he can run his crowd-pleasers anywhere, but every dairy and petrol station I've seen the Herald in has stacked the paper sideways so you can't read it without turning your head. This feels like a big error, especially for an editor who's obsessively aware of the need of a hook to get causal buyers to pick up the daily paper.

    Since Jul 2008 • 136 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to James W,

    Currie said on the show that their focus groups and other research were clear about ditching the front page fluff. Guess people buy the Herald regardless of any particular stories - unlike magazines, say, or more crowded newspaper markets overseas.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    but every dairy and petrol station I’ve seen the Herald in has stacked the paper sideways so you can’t read it without turning your head

    I'd imagine they'd fix that as they replace them over time. Critic went from folded tabloid size to little A4 magazine size several years ago and replaced their distribution boxes over the next couple of years because while the size is similar without the fold, you want them right way up.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Robyn Gallagher, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    I agree with Robyn that Idol was never going to work here. What serious musician of any ilk was ever going to go on a show like that? It had shit prizes and stunk just a little too much of over manufactured hype for it to take.

    And now what's happened? It's just been announced that TV3 will produce a New Zealand version of the X Factor next year. This has already sparked a guessing game of which trans-Tasman hasbeen will make up the judging panel (though secretly one hopes it will be at least as quality as the NZGT panel).

    But what will the show be like in Aotearoa? X Factor always seems to have room for more unusual singers than the po-faced Idol. Will pretty boys with wobbly voices find more of a home on the X Factor? Will L** S*** come back to NZ to audition? And will there be a TrueBliss theme week?

    Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Robyn Gallagher,

    Circuses

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • martinb, in reply to James W,

    yes, like stumping up with some funding for the central rail link and expansion, while at the same time being nothing like it....!

    Auckland • Since Jul 2010 • 206 posts Report

  • Steve Barnes,

    Just wondering if that Production Bible uses the Comic sans font and if I would find the herald more believable if it were too.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report

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