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Hard News: Privacy and the Public Interest

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  • Trevor Nicholls, in reply to Russell Brown,

    extending to losing her job

    Does anyone know if Jason Ede still has a job?

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell, in reply to Trevor Nicholls,

    Does anyone know if Jason Ede still has a job?

    For life, one is inclined to think. Or until he opens his mouth.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2110 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Trevor Nicholls,

    Does anyone know if Jason Ede still has a job?

    It has not been reported that National have fired him, but he has rather become a non-person.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming,

    Interesting. There is still a Cactus Kate Twitter account. I suspect it's a bot as it appears to be posting Russian proverbs, in Russian. But Slater did link to it from one of the deleted posts, so I assume she used it at some point.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Trevor Nicholls, in reply to nzlemming,

    It has not been reported that National have fired him, but he has rather become a non-person

    If true, that's suggestive that he was a servant not a rogue, n'est-ce pas?

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to nzlemming,

    "There is no Jason Ede, There has never been a Jason Ede."

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart, in reply to Dismal Soyanz,

    Will the real Jason Ede please stand up? Perhaps he's gone hunting with the similarly invisible Simon Lusk.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Dismal Soyanz,

    There is no Jason Ede, There has never been a Jason Ede.”

    We have always been at war with Jason Ede.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Trevor Nicholls,

    If true, that’s suggestive that he was a servant not a rogue, n’est-ce pas?

    Sorry? Don't understand.

    He worked in the Opposition Leader's office, under Brash, then Key kept him on and took him into the PM's office, for reasons no-one seems willing to understand or enumerate. When National started gearing up for their campaign, he left the PM's office and moved (presumably to Willis St - Nat HQ) to the campaign office, to do nobody knows what or is willing to say. However, media reports indicate he still has an electronic pass to the Beehive.

    No-one credible, apart from Key (and then only by inference) has ever suggested he was a rogue - he was definitely an employee of Parliamentary Services and then Ministerial Services (where I might point out he was bound by the Public Service Code of Conduct).

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Rob Stowell,

    No question last year.

    Ede was a senior adviser in the National leader's office. He provided communication advice and support to the prime minister and to National Party MPs, including in the area of social media and other media.

    stuff Dec 13.

    Whakaraupo • Since Nov 2006 • 2110 posts Report Reply

  • Trevor Nicholls, in reply to nzlemming,

    Sorry? Don't understand.

    It was shorthand for "public servant acting on my instructions" vs "someone in my office acting on their own initiative and without my knowledge".

    His disappearing is circumstantial evidence that he's been a bad boy. The fact that he hasn't been sacked and discredited is circumstantial evidence that JK wanted him to be a bad boy.

    At least that's how I read it.

    Wellington, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 324 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to Trevor Nicholls,

    The fact that he hasn’t been sacked and discredited

    Well, publicly, at least.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Dismal Soyanz,

    The fact that he hasn’t been sacked and discredited

    Well, publicly, at least.

    Is he even alive?

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Austin,

    If i recall correctly, the Wayback archive can have items removed, if someone is determined, although I'm sure helpful souls have taken copies of all the files there, just in case.

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 1027 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Ben Austin,

    If i recall correctly, the Wayback archive can have items removed, if someone is determined

    According to its FAQ, the appropriate robots.txt on your website will remove all historic content... not just prevent future crawling. I guess this is what Cathy Odgers did, but I hadn't thought of the National Library archive until @mpledger pointed it out.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1141 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Ben Austin,

    If i recall correctly, the Wayback archive can have items removed, if someone is determined, although I’m sure helpful souls have taken copies of all the files there, just in case.

    :-) You betcha. Nothing really scandalous though, just a spat between former BFFs is my take.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to izogi,

    but I hadn’t thought of the National Library archive until @mpledger pointed it out.

    I had but hadn't got round to it yet. I wasn't actually sure that online access was available. It's a lot harder to navigate, though, and links break more easily.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Is he even alive?

    It's odd that he hasn't been spotted anywhere. You'd think someone would've staked out his residence, so presumably he's no longer living there. It's clear that the media must not speak to him. Perhaps he's been provided with a whole new identity and banished to a safe house (complete with golf clubs).

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Angela Hart,

    so presumably he’s no longer living

    I can imagine the scenario.
    "Hey John, this guy Ede could drop us right in the milkshed runoff if he opens his mouth"
    "You're right Steve, loose lips sink Shits at the end of the day"
    "End of the day, I see what you mean, nudge nudge"
    Yes, preferably before lunchtime akshully"
    We would have to be super careful not to be found out"
    "Why, we just say its stupid for people to think we would do that sort of thing and even if we did, everybody accidentally shoots people sometimes, Dick Cheney springs to mind"
    "You are right john, as always, by lunchtime then"

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Fits of laughter!
    Where in the world is.... Jason Ede?

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • CJM,

    Andrea Vance finally admitting she's a pointless, waste of space and at the same time defining the 'nothing to see here' modus operandi of Key et al:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10466666/Looking-here-looking-there-looking-forward-to-election-day

    Guess that now the election is all over she can go and buy some more shoes or get her fringe trimmed or, you know, whatever…..

    Auckland • Since Aug 2014 • 107 posts Report Reply

  • James George,

    The Herald is in fine Tory form this (saturday mornin) John Armstrong has produced one of his more blatant pieces of one-eyed opinionating, claiming Labour are the living dead.
    That hasn't gone down well with their readership who are about 10 to 1 saying the Herald poll Armstrong based his piece on has been shown over many elections to overestimate the national vote, usually by more than 5%.
    I'm surprised the Herald published comments today. It isn't unusual for comments to be hold off from Fran O'Sullivan and John Armstrong's Saturday pieces until the following Tuesday or Wednesday, by which time of course 99% of those who are going to read it will already have done so.
    Maybe the Electoral Commish has noticed I dunno, but one thing is for sure the like button has been left off the comments on Armstrong's piece, maybe he or the big bosses upstairs can't take the vast majority of readers disagreeing with his propaganda.

    I know this all seems very petty hardly worth commenting on, but it is important for us all to get a handle on how widespread and pervasive the National Party deceive the masses machine is.
    This is no back-room conspiracy - it is so out there and obvious one has to assume that the perpetrators have become totally relaxed with their brainwashing, to the point where it is an accepted fact of life. Want to work in the media in New Zealand? Then say what you like as long as you support John Key.

    Since Sep 2007 • 96 posts Report Reply

  • Angela Hart,

    This is no back-room conspiracy - it is so out there and obvious one has to assume that the perpetrators have become totally relaxed with their brainwashing, to the point where it is an accepted fact of life. Want to work in the media in New Zealand? Then say what you like as long as you support John Key.

    I've long since stopped buying papers and tuning in to one sided programmes. Consumers do have some clout in that advertisers need numbers- but so many of us seem not to notice the existence of the spin, it's a worry.
    Thank goodness for the internet and this blog.

    There's really very little of merit as far as I can see in today's reports. Bryce Edwards was comprehensive yesterday. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11319671
    The "Truth Please" link is interesting.
    I had hoped there would be a major effort to make sense of and publish stories on more of the remaining e-mails, perhaps we'll see that tomorrow.

    Christchurch • Since Apr 2014 • 614 posts Report Reply

  • James George,

    I've long since stopped buying papers and tuning in to one sided programmes. Consumers do have some clout in that advertisers need numbers- but so many of us seem not to notice the existence of the spin, it's a worry.

    I'm sorry but I believe we've got to go further than that. The removal of Paul (the creep) Henry from Breakfast only happened because a few of us serendipitously hit the same buttons at the same time. Anyone who believes there is some great 'leftie' conspiracy should study that instance where a lever moved a mountain almost by accident because for once a lot of people pushed the fulcrum in the same direction totally ignorant & independent of what everyone else was doing. We'd all just had enough.
    Its late in the day, not reading the fishwraps or watching the celebrity gossip that passes for news isn't enough do do anything other than feel good. I apologise if that seems harsh because I mean no slight on you or your post, which I'm sure was made with the best intentions, I just mean we have to be better co-ordinated.

    Well organised and careful targeting of those enterprises that pay for this stuff by advertising on the shows or in the papers is the best method of forcing a halt to the dissemination of lies.

    If KeyCorp scrape back in, it will be time to 'maintain the rage' by drawing attention to the enablers of subversion of our democracy.

    Since Sep 2007 • 96 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to James George,

    Well organised and careful targeting of those enterprises that pay for this stuff by advertising on the shows or in the papers is the best method of forcing a halt to the dissemination of lies.

    The trick is to target the churnalists, without causing investigative journos like Toby Manhire et al to get caught up in it. Any ideas?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5441 posts Report Reply

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