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Hard News: Dirty Politics

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  • Alfie, in reply to nzlemming,

    My impression is that Willams and co are intimating that buying elections is a good thing.

    Champtioning? Doller? These people are morons.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • CJM, in reply to nzlemming,

    "Champtioning"???
    Utter fucking ning-nongs.

    Auckland • Since Aug 2014 • 107 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Alfie,

    Ha! I missed that completely! :-D

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Alfie,

    Eminem is suing the National Party over the unauthorised use of his music in their election ads.

    I did send him an email a cuppla weeks ago, he never got back to me, hey Stan, I’m your biggest fan, you should be with me, not Key…

    Irony indeed.

    Hey Key, loser yourself.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Alfie,

    Champtioning? Doller? These people are morons.

    Dont want to waist yous tax doller on no edukashun...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    The party was "assured the music in question did not infringe any copyright and was an original work".

    It arranged the music license and fee through the Australasian Performing Rights Association and Australasian Mechanical Copyright Owners Society (APRA/AMCOS).

    "Regardless, as our advertising was moving on to different material at the time of the complaint, over two weeks ago, we were able to accommodate the complaining artist and undertake not to continue using the track.

    Now don't that sound familiar.
    We were but then we didn't.
    That is soooo National. We were going to allow a tunnel through the Alps but decided we wouldn't. We were going to allow a monorail through Southland but decided we wouldn't. We were going to spy wholesale on the New Zealand public but decided we wouldn't. Ain't we just the bees knees.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Steven Joyce explains all in the Herald.

    "I think these guys are just having a crack and have a bit of an eye for the main chance because it's an election campaign. So good on them, but we'll be contesting it pretty seriously. We don't believe they've got any grounds at all and we suspect its politically motivated."

    So that Eminem guy is really a part of the vast, worldwide, left wing conspiracy that's out to get NZ's National Party? Who knew that?

    He said it was chosen because it was a "positive, upbeat track."

    National had replaced it with another track because it was "a little too positive."

    Hey Steven! Unless you have a dirge in mind, this might be a more appropriate track.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Or…

    The Ballad of Joan Key

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Alfie,

    Steven Joyce explains all in the Herald.

    National's campaign chairman Steven Joyce said National had done everything by the book and he believed the legal action was aimed at getting money and free publicity.

    Joyce seriously believes that Eminem would *gain* publicity from National??? There's "punching above your weight" and then there's "how ridiculous can one get?"

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to nzlemming,

    They are a party so divorced from popular culture that no one in the party understood the music. That ad music is so ripped off the massive and still incredibly popular hip-hop song “lose yourself” that using it would always be an issue, on many levels.

    They are cavalier in their approach to business . The agency that sold it will have changed a certain percentage of the riff to get it usable but it sounds so similar their percentage changes will be well scrutinised by good commercial lawyers. National do not have any understanding of the music business. They don’t wonk hard on business models, they are all ideology.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    They are a party so divorced from popular culture that no one in the party understood the music.

    As a brief aside, TV3 asked Colin Craig to name his favourite kiwi musos the other day. He chose 'Dave Dobyn' and 'The Police'. Nuff said!

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Is this serious? David Fisher suggests that the PM may have breached national security.

    Secret documents which John Key says he made public to protect his reputation threatened massive damage to New Zealand's wellbeing if made public without permission, according to the GCSB's own threat estimates.

    Is he taking the piss?

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    I love Eminem's music How dare National try and take away my pleasures when they have no understanding of the music or the circumstances of the lyrics. And the COPYRIGHT that they are playing God with. Sorry precious ears but Fuk Teamkey hypocrites.
    Helps as an example to email these situations noticed. Maybe just maybe the heads up works.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Sjorn,

    This may be a little demented, but maybe this might be the Ballad Of John Key.

    So many ballads out there - he is clearly an inspiration for many.

    New Zealand • Since Sep 2013 • 39 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to nzlemming,

    nah he's *withdrawing* the money, like a good parasite

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19740 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    They are a party so divorced from popular culture that no one in the party understood the music.

    It's a venerable tradition. Back in 1990 the Nats attempted to reach out to The Yoof by appropriating the title of Timbuk3's then recent hit The Future's So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades as the totally non-ironic title of an election pamphlet. While it was dropped after being roundly mocked, perhaps they should have gone the whole hog with the unexpurgated version:

    Blowin' up the lab,
    Blowin' the professor,
    Torn between two evils,
    I always pick the lesser.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4593 posts Report Reply

  • Dismal Soyanz, in reply to Alfie,

    Je suis l'etat?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2010 • 310 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood, in reply to Alfie,

    The argument around declassification is that as documents are supposed to be publically available unless there is pressing need, either these documents were wrong classified as secret or wrong declassified.

    the estimate of the damage that the documents becoming public would do, based on there security clearance, is large damage to New Zealand.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1445 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Andrea Vance has a 3:31 video interview with Glenn Greenwald.

    Key said he pulled the plug on Project Speargun, a mass surveillance programme. He said its replacement Cortex is less intrusive because it doesn't indiscriminately sift through all internet traffic.

    Greenwald cast doubt on those claims, however. He said Cortex, by design, has to filter through communications to identify attacks and to function must have access to the Southern Cross cable.

    "Even if you believe the prime minister that this programme is limited - as he wants to claim it is - the only way that you could make any progress at all in guarding against cyber-attacks or detecting malware is if you were monitoring vast amounts of traffic, which is a form of mass surveillance by definition," he said.

    "It is not targeted at specific people who you think are being targeted or who you think are up to no good. It is watching, keeping an eye on, the flow of internet traffic into and out of New Zealand in order to find things that you say you want to find. That is mass surveillance by definition."

    Key declassified documents last night in a bid to disprove Greenwald and Snowden's claims. But Greenwald said they "have almost nothing to do with the programme that the NSA documents that we reported on are describing."

    And she's managed to extract something out of Ferguson's otherwise bland "don't know nuffin" interviews.

    However, former director of the GCSB Bruce Ferguson today admitted agents were trained in the data-harvesting technology.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1437 posts Report Reply

  • Jack Harrison, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    Little aside: Yesterday a major news website ran a headline for the sad passing of the genius behind “Snapper” with a headline calling him a “Chills” member. These people are great artists in our artistic history and the musical world, how do you fuck that up . Jesus.

    wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Alfie,

    Is he taking the piss?

    Nope, it's quite a serious consideration. Greenwald referred to it last night as unheard of. Stephen Price said much the same yesterday.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2935 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover, in reply to Jack Harrison,

    with a headline calling him a “Chills” member.

    You know he was in the Chills, right, as in founding member? But yes, not their finest moment.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • Simon Sjorn,

    Yep. I think left after two gigs - would have liked to have heard some of those first few practices.

    New Zealand • Since Sep 2013 • 39 posts Report Reply

  • Caleb D'Anvers, in reply to Alfie,

    As a brief aside, TV3 asked Colin Craig to name his favourite kiwi musos the other day. He chose ‘Dave Dobyn’ and ‘The Police’. Nuff said.

    Perhaps he meant the actual New Zealand police force?

    London SE16 • Since Mar 2008 • 482 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    The Eminem story got National's ad played at the top of both main TV news bulletins tonight, I doubt they're too concerned.

    On the other hand, it meant Steven Joyce appearing on both main TV news bulletins, so maybe it comes out even.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1330 posts Report Reply

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