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Hard News: A Taxonomy of Poo

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  • Danyl Mclauchlan,

    This amused me a while ago.

    The guy on the right is supposed to be Redbaiter, right?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    Just glancing at the SOLOPassion comments thread on this paper, I wondered: is "pomowanker" a widespread poo label, or is it something unique to Perigo et al?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1611 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    That's my understanding. Although he & the Libz seem to have parted ways.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    Just glancing at the SOLOPassion comments thread on this paper, I wondered: is "pomowanker" a widespread poo label, or is it something unique to Perigo et al?

    I think that one's an artefact of the Rand cult, since they call themselves "objectivists".

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1716 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    So, its not that people are outraged by a serious assault, no, its just "tall poppy syndrome". These people are utterly demented.

    And the appalling irony is that he's clearly guilty of the very crime he accuses others of; using the assault to make political capital. What a wanker.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    The guy on the right is supposed to be Redbaiter, right?

    Really? Is this speculation or local knowledge? For a long time I wondered if Red wasn't David's alter-ego.

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    is "pomowanker"

    WTF is it?

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report Reply

  • Don Christie,

    What are the conservative or right-wing equivalent poo labels that lefties use?

    Ruthanasia

    God, is that it? I am not even sure that has any connotations, good or bad.

    Sometimes tone conveys more. My sadly deceased Granny could put so much feeling into the two words "that Miggie" that if Thatcher had been within 100 miles she would have frizzled up and dissolved into a smoking acidic puddle.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1645 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    Really? Is this speculation or local knowledge?

    Bit of both, depending on whether the source was reliable.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    I think "solopassion" is such an appropriate domain, really.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    WTF is it?

    Postmodernist

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1716 posts Report Reply

  • Matty Smith,

    Everyone knows that Perigo used to be a good interviewer.

    I'm too young to remember a sane Perigo. Nowadays, as a "media monitor" who had to summarise his filth on Radio Pacific, I find this very hard to believe.

    Wellington • Since Mar 2007 • 13 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    I'll throw in "blitzkrieg". Originally pejorative when used by Easton, Douglas was quite proud of it though.

    Bzzt! It's an actual description, especially since Douglas adopted it with his "blitzkreig principles".

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1716 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Reid,

    Can I just say I'm quite happy with how we've ended up with such a useful and expressive term as "poo labels".

    And here was me thinking at last someone is blogging the Bristol Stool Chart

    I can report that Maryan Street is calling John Key "sloppy as well as slippery", which is an image I've already spent too long thinking about.

    Which makes John Key a Type 6 or 7...

    South Africa • Since Nov 2006 • 80 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    And here was me thinking at last someone is blogging the Bristol Stool Chart

    I gwad, I looked and as I fell about laughing my office colleagues came to investigate the cause of amusement...

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Rowe,

    Bzzt! It's an actual description, especially since Douglas adopted it with his "blitzkreig principles".

    Dang, this game is harder to play than Numberwang


    Lake Roxburgh, Central Ot… • Since Nov 2006 • 574 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    Shadbolt was around various movements, but he wasn't a member of PYM from memory.



    he very definitely was - Or has his memoir 'Bullshit and jellybeans' vanished down the public memory-hole?

    He turns and takes it off the shelf...

    Bloody funny book (for a variety of reasons).

    Here's an excerpt that seems fitting (from a poem on p.66)
    "Old dogmatic minds
    Faithfully churning out cliches
    From some foreign revolution
    Capitalist Colonialist Imperialist Puppet Monopoly
    Revisionist Bourgeoise Paper Tiger.
    "Fuck the workers".
    Heresy they scream
    Flicking through the pages
    Of Marxist biblical scriptures
    ...."

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    I can, boringly, list several US historians who were all Marxists in the sixties and seventies and now faff on about the wonders of authoritarian militarism and manifest destiny.

    Meh, historians, they don't count.

    he very definitely was - Or has his memoir 'Bullshit and jellybeans' vanished down the public memory-hole?

    From here:

    The 1980s history of it all is garbled and incorrect; (e.g. Kevin Clements, in ‘Back from the Brink: the Creation of a Nuclear Free New Zealand’, Wellington: Allen and Unwin, 1988, p. 103, writes that Shadbolt was a ‘prominent member’ of the Progressive Youth Movement – the Communist Party youth wing – which in fact he took great pains never to be. See Shadbolt ibid. p. 134); but perhaps something so innocent and unmeditated is best uncharted.

    I don't have BS & JB to hand, but my memory of it is that he explicitly says that he wasn't a member, though he was around the people and working with them.

    That's if you believe Shadbolt's book anyway. I know some people who were around at the time regard it as mostly ego-fiction.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • andrew llewellyn,

    Man, I am LOVING the solopassion site

    Danyl, will you do us the pleasure of linking to any comments you leave there?

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report Reply

  • Yamis,

    I don't have BS & JB to hand, but my memory of it is that he explicitly says that he wasn't a member, though he was around the people and working with them.

    That's if you believe Shadbolt's book anyway. I know some people who were around at the time regard it as mostly ego-fiction.

    p. 134
    "I am not a member of the PYM, nor have I ever been a member. I do not agree with every aspect of the PYM but they are the only group that has kept going in opposition to the war..."

    Since Nov 2006 • 903 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    And the words the right would probably like to claim are poo-lables ("privatisation", "tax cuts for the rich", "inequality") are both well short of the frothing we see over there, and actual descriptions rather than sheer hyperbolic invective.

    'Child-beaters" ring any bells, Idiot? I could keep going, but you know something -- I've had a fucking fabulous day with the better half, recorded a '180 Seconds' piece fizzing with joy and enthusiasm and I'm not ready to get back on the Onanism Express quite yet.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Idiot Savant,

    'Child-beaters" ring any bells, Idiot?

    We have a winner! An actual poo-label! Now, come back when you've got the sort of torrent of shit written about in Stoddart's thesis, and maybe people will take you seriously.

    Palmerston North • Since Nov 2006 • 1716 posts Report Reply

  • Kerry Weston,

    And here was me thinking at last someone is blogging the Bristol Stool Chart

    PMSL - and that'd make Perigo a type 2 then?-

    I really don't get the Ayn Rand obsession - I read Fountainhead & Atlas Shrugged years ago, but they never struck me as awe inspiring. And to describe the Veitch thing as tall poppy lopping is just crazy & desperate.

    Manawatu • Since Jan 2008 • 494 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Cresswell,

    Sorry, Russell, your 'analysis' is as lame as the thesis, for which Mr Stoddart was awarded an academic diploma.

    You'll note for example, if you read the thing, that Stoddart quite explicitly doesn't bother to distinguish between the comments and views of either callers or hosts; so trying to bag Perigo for comments of his callers, or for the views of John Banks, would be like trying to bag you for the views of your commenters, or for the political allegiances of Mr Ranapia.

    It's just ridiculous.

    And you should have known -- or at least Mr Stoddart should have, since he offered this up as research -- that Perigo didn't leave the shows because he "inevitably, had a hissy fit and left the show (probably blaming his "enemies")" [your words], but because his gig had finished. That was the period for which he had been hired.

    Frankly, the research was pissweak -- but that's all that's needed at universities these days. I had thought better of you.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 27 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Now, come back when you've got the sort of torrent of shit written about in Stoddart's thesis, and maybe people will take you seriously.

    I've been reading it for years, Idiot, and you can go sit in the naughty corner with Perigo and stop being such a precious little toddler. Another thing I've noticed about the pathology of the rhetorical coprophilie is now rancid they get when their own conduct is pointed out to them. (There is also a tendency towards hostile projection and persecution mania that are also intriguing.) That would, however, require the attention of a post-graduate student in clinical psychology and my life is far too short.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

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