Field Theory by Hadyn Green

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Field Theory: All White on the night

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  • Hadyn Green,

    Feel free to use this thread to discuss all of your All Whites hopes, dreams, aspirations and despairs

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    Yes, the All Whites, needs too much context and awareness of the juxtaposition of the All Blacks to make sense and even then...

    But yay - not quite the kid I was in 1982 - but yay!

    8hrs to drink and think and still try and see the game - its gonna be close.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report Reply

  • LegBreak,

    Shit stirrer Hadyn. Not planning on an Xmas card from Iain O'B this year?

    As for the Bahrani fans; apparently a bit of a todo at Farmers (yes, Farmers) on Thursday night. Club card only night.

    No matter how much cash they waved around, the staff just weren't going to serve them.

    As for the game itself; very hard to call because we don't play together enough, and we know next to nothing about Bahrain.

    One thing for sure though; expect a bit of whining coming our way from the Northern Hemisphere

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1162 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    Lambs to the slaughter.

    I'm not going to count New Zealand out of winning this. By virtue of its low scores, football is a game where statistically the weaker team is more likely to produce an upset than most others, and the best side does not always win - a significant reason for its popularity.

    Saudi Arabia were very unlucky not to progress. They've been strong in the last few years, and got a bad draw. Nevertheless, they are out of the competition. If New Zealand does scrape a win against Bahrain, they'll go to the mens world cup and be knocked out almost immediately. There isn't a single team that has qualified that I think New Zealand could beat, even on a very good day.

    The Oceania Football Confederation is almost meaningless, and means that New Zealand and the rest of the Pacific have no experience playing strong teams. You need to play teams stronger than you to improve, no matter how bad you are - winning against terrible teams teaches you nothing. The sooner it is abolished the better. That will have to wait until Asia gets strong enough for rearranging confederations, which might be a while.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    You need to play teams stronger than you to improve, no matter how bad you are - winning against terrible teams teaches you nothing.

    Oh, I don't know. The USA has an almost guaranteed path to qualification every four years in a very poor group and yet a couple of cups ago they went pretty deep into the competition. Think also of the boon that qualifying to a cup is for a nation these days, in terms of the money that can be injected into player development.

    Plus it's no like rugby: the players in national sides play the vast majority of their football with their clubs, not against other nations, that's what hardens them and tests their skill individually.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    If you are in Wellington, I hope you are on the streets.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Clarke,

    Anyways, can we talk about VFX again? Much more interesting than sport.

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Are any others a little concerned about a team called the All Whites going to South Africa? Perhaps they could use a te reo version.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3226 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Clarke,

    How would a te reo version be any better?

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    This be the place to record euphoria?

    How good's the 'keeper?

    How good's Fallon? How brilliant's that hey, hey?

    Crowds of kiwis flock to my house, for I have Setanta, to watch this momentus event...

    want some fun? Google "NZ qualify"...

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    On Twitter #allwhites is the #1 trending topic. This is causing a lot of awakening Americans to ask WTF is going on

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • George Darroch,

    Paul, I think so. I missed the game proper, just saw the highlights.

    I was in Melbourne when Australia qualified for the first time, against Uruguay in 2005 (penalty shootout!) and the city just went electric. It's funny how that happens - I've never seen that with rugby yet.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Goal!!!!!!!!!1!

    Win!

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Matt Swinson,

    This is the most unabashedly happy I've been this year... it's like being a 10 year old again! My favourite player is Rory Fallon, and I want to put his poster on my wall. I'm even thinking about sleeping with my shin guards on.

    london • Since Mar 2007 • 17 posts Report Reply

  • 3410,

    Gotta give props too to 'keeper Mark Paston for saving a penalty (admittedly, a weak one) and at least one other fairly solid shot on goal.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • johnno,

    One shot for Rory!!

    He's mad, he's bad, he's better than his dad, Rory Fallon!!


    We sang our way all the way out the stadium, and down the concourse. The eleven year-old suggested we hit Courtney Place!

    wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 111 posts Report Reply

  • Graeme Edgeler,

    It's funny how that happens - I've never seen that with rugby yet.

    Well, we've never had to qualify for the Rugby World Cup...

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3215 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark,

    Well, I don't give a shit about soccer, but I have to say, I have a tear in my eye. What a fantastic thing for those players to be able to say they went to the World Cup.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Are any others a little concerned about a team called the All Whites going to South Africa?

    I'm guessing the "Reverse-Blacks" ain't gonna fly...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7950 posts Report Reply

  • LegBreak,

    I love the way that Herbert dropped the F-Bomb straight after the match. We don't get enough of that.

    Great stuff. More than great sport, but great theatre.

    Who cares we only played 3 matches at home, and the fact that a lot of better sides didn't make it.

    That's the rules, and it just balances out the fact that our geographical isolation puts us at a massive disadvantage.

    And, unlike 1982, we can really call this team ours.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1162 posts Report Reply

  • Tim Hannah,

    Are any others a little concerned about a team called the All Whites going to South Africa?

    All Whites might be vaguely survivable, fans with placards reading 'White Power!'? Yes, very amusing and transgressive. Dick.

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 228 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso,

    Forget Fallon (by the way, Rory, I'd thank L. Bertos before J. Christ), how good was Killen?!

    The haka at San Siro, boy, that sent goosebumps.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks,

    Paston would be my pick for man of the match, but Killen was close (heh).

    I feel sorry for Bahrain, but boy we did earn that win - better team on the day as the cliche goes.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1165 posts Report Reply

  • LegBreak,

    Quote:

    Forget Fallon (by the way, Rory, I'd thank L. Bertos before J. Christ), how good was Killen?!

    Totally. On both counts. I wondered what Kevin made of the Jesus bit.

    And Nelsen too. Not just as a player, but all that organising of the back 3.

    Our friend Tommy Smythe, at HT in the IRe - Fra match, has just commented on what a great samve Mark Preston madel.

    Looking forward to a rematch with you guys in 7 months GT.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1162 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Bahrainz, someone has eaten my Bahrainz. Why didn't anybody tell me that drinking liberal amounts of various single malts causes ones Bahrainz to atrophy. After a few cups of coffee I may be all white.
    :-) :-):-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

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